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#586
R51 General Discussion / Re: Racking with a full mag
December 27, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: GunFrogg on December 26, 2016, 08:46:20 AM
I have shot my R51 a lot (I just love shooting this little gun), and it feels it has gotten a little better racking with a full mag.

I'm starting to get the impression 1911shooter does not like disassembling his R51   :D

Gun Frog,

You are very astute!  I muddle through it about every 4th time I shoot.  I also am noticing that I can rack the slide with a full mag,
but it is a chore for these old hands.  I still "slingshot" the slide on a full mag. I found some defensive ammo called "Power Ball".  It is "Polymer" capped JHP.
Strange thing is, it is it is almost 1/8" shorter, and only 100 GR. It is +P though. Gonna try is this weekend and I'll
Pass any results along..
Blackie

BTW: I am behind the times, evidently this ammo has been around for a while.  Don't know how I missed it.

https://www.corbon.com/pow-r-ball.html


   
#587
Quote from: Texas-Mark on December 25, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Link says it's discontinued. What's up with that?

But it does seem to be in stock at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Desantis-Scabbard-Holster-Right-Black/dp/B00KQG7R2W


My bad, Tex.
I missed the discontinued notice. I was too busy getting ready to get one.  I saw the one on Amazon. Thanks.
Blackie
#588
Anybody interested De Santis has a Mini Scabbard for the R51.
Looks good too.
Blackie

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/436399/desantis-mini-scabbard-belt-holster-right-hand-remington-r51-leather-black


#589
R51 General Discussion / Re: problems with r-51
December 25, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
Quote from: Texas-Mark on December 25, 2016, 08:52:43 AM
Quote from: argie1891 on December 25, 2016, 03:21:29 AM
i don't expect anyone to say they have problems if they don't..

Well, it seemed that was sort of what you implied when you said this:

Quote from: argie1891
it seems to me that there are a lot of people who don't want to admit they bought a handgun with problems...

Quote from: argie1891 link=topic=212.msg758#msg758
there is no way I could currently carry it for protection, and at this point could not and would not advise others to.

Again, I'm sorry that you are having problems. But there are many if not the majority (of all owners) that are not. I have put nearly 1K rounds though mine without issue and would have no reservations about carrying it for SD. But I won't advise others what to do or not to do. They have to make their own decision based on their own experience.

Quote from: argie1891 on December 25, 2016, 03:21:29 AM
it just seems that every time I post someone takes ]me to task.

No, it's just that you seem to be trying to convince everyone that the gun is a POS just because you are having issues. Or you seem to be trying to justify your position by posting a poll to prove your point. As I said earlier, I would not be surprised at all if the poll here indicated a high percentage of problems. I just don't believe that it would be an accurate reflection of all owners. An analogy would be to go to the service department of a car dealership to try and get accurate statistics of those who have had a problem with a particular vehicle.

Quote from: argie1891 on December 25, 2016, 03:21:29 AM
anyway I don't hate the gun I hate that it doesn't function properly.

I assume that you voted in your own poll. But there are no votes for having sent the gun, or intending to send the gun in for repair. So if you are having so many problems, why have you not sent it in? Just seems that you would have a better argument if you had sent it in and it still did not work. Or better yet, if they fixed it you would have a gun that functions as well as you would like it to.  :)



Argie1891 and Texas-Mark, enough with the measuring contest, It's Christmas!  Nuff said!
Blackie
#590
R51 General Discussion / Re: Racking with a full mag
December 25, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
Mine is starting to get looser too Tex. Still don't like not being able to completely disassemble the
thing, but I love shooting it. I may get a husky teenager to field strip it for me. Too bad my
grandkids all live outside of Texas.  Shooting function is 100% though, I have shot up all my
loose ammo in my range bag and now buying a different brand every weekend to try.
  :=}
#591
R51 General Discussion / Hand Grips R54
December 24, 2016, 02:46:01 PM
 Go to Gunbroker and search Remingtn R51, They are starting to get some
different grips.  Look on page three of the listing.
Blackie
#592
R51 General Discussion / Extractor Spring???
December 24, 2016, 11:18:11 AM
     Has anybody else noticed the little green piece of rubber under rear of the Extractor
on the breech block of  the R51?   Remove the Magazine  shine a light in the
magazine slot and look at the bottom of the breech block.  You will see a little
green object. 
     Believe it or not, it is the elastomeric  extractor spring!!!
I have never owned or seen a firearm that uses rubber for a critical spring.
I wonder how long this will last?  Mine is already starting to ooze out! 
Is it something that the oil and Hoppe's will deteriorate?
Going to send an email to Remington and see if they will discuss it.
After all the problems we at R51pistol.com have had, and mostly fixed on our own,
now a cheap piece of rubber is behind one of the
most crucial parts of the firearm?
Blackie
BTW, just sent a query to Remington, let's see what they say.
#593
R51 General Discussion / Re: Major magazine failures
December 24, 2016, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: Mike on December 23, 2016, 08:41:55 AM
So I picked up my r51 2 days ago and went to the range yesterday, the first five rounds went fine then on number six the base plate on the magazine blew out so after checking the gun over well I could find nothing wrong so I put the second magazine in and shot about 30 rounds with no issues then the same thing happened the base on the magazine blew out, I was shooting Remington 115g so nothing special and no hot rounds. Has anyone heard of this happening?

Mike,
      Do you know if the Mags had been disassembled at any time? Not doubting you at all, but I have never seen any mag do that. I bet it shocked the blazes out of ya huh?
I notice the base plate on the mags is apparently some type of polymer or plastic. Maybe it stripped out where is mates with the metal frame of the mag?
Those mags should go back to Big Green, not their repair ship in ALA.
BTW, I keep a pick up magnet in my truck on a piece of rope, for looking for parts in grass or on the ground. A spring is next to invisible on the ground.
And, yes, I have lost parts during an emergency field strip.
Blackie 
#594
R51 General Discussion / Re: problems with r-51
December 24, 2016, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: argie1891 on December 23, 2016, 10:41:25 PM
you can change your vote. for some reason those who have had problems have chosen to not vote.

Argie,
     We need to keep up the list of problems, otherwise, how can we convince Remington to listen to us?
Blackie
#595
General Discussion / Re: R51 Slide Issue
December 23, 2016, 12:30:06 PM
Argie,
     We are not making excuses, we are giving symptoms of our problems which Remington "appears"
not to be paying attention to. Yes there is a problem racking the seventh bullet into the slide on
many R51s. I leave the slide open, insert a full magazine (7 rounds), pull the slide back
and let it slam forward. My gun shoots this way all day. With any 115 gr ammo or +P ammo,
even Winchester USA Forged with steel cases. 
     My slide does not cut my hand, my hand gets abraded by the sharp edges on the lemon squeezer
in the handle. With my slide all the way locked back, and a normal firing grip, there is 3/8" of an inch
between the slide and the web of my hand. I bought a pair of shooters gloves and moved on.
     Texas Mark did many of us a favour by coming up with that little block of wood to hold the
slide open on disassembly. I for one, as an old fart can use all the help I can get in this area.
     We are trying to help each other through Remington's maze of hurdles, not trying to make
excuses.  :)
Blackie
     
#596
General Discussion / Re: R51 Slide Issue
December 23, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: bonorden on August 25, 2016, 06:16:28 AM
Let me start by saying that I really like the feel and accuracy of the R51.  However, I have an issue with my R51 that I haven't seen posted.

When I have a full magazine (all 7 rounds) and insert the magazine while the slide is pulled back, the magazine inserts properly.  I can release the slide and the first bullet gets chambered.  Perfect!

However, if my slide is closed and I insert the magazine (with all 7 rounds), it goes in, but has a little different feel to it.  But it is still properly secured.  The issue is that under this circumstance, I cannot put the slide all the way back...maybe it goes back 1/2 to 3/4 ways.  If I drop the magazine out, the bullet (or now I'm using snap caps) will have a little mark on the top side of the bullet.  I do not have this problem if there are only 6 bullets in the magazine.  It does this for both magazines.

I've field stripped it many times to see if Pederson device is in the proper spot or if there is anything between it and the slide or if there is any signs of wear.  I don't see any issue.

Is this a problem or just normal operation?


Bonorden,
     It is not your imagination. The slide will not rack with a full loaded magazine. My fix is to leave the slide locked open, insert the magazine, pull back on the open slide and
let it slingshot back. Then, I take the magazine out, replace the seventh bullet and it is good to go. on the range, I just bite the bullet (pun intended) and shoot six times and
reload.
Blackie
#597
General Discussion / Grip screw washers
December 22, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
I have seen a couple of posts about wood grips for the R51.
Be warned! When you take the screws out that hold the grips in, be advised
that there is a rubber grommet under the screw head, and it is very fragile.
I do not know the purpose of these grommets unless it is to prevent the
screws coming loose while shooting. I screwed up one of my grommets
while making wood grips, put the screw back in without a grommet and
and it appears to make no difference in holding power. It also does
not interfere with the Magazine at all. Will post a photo of the grips
if I ever finish them. They will have to be laminate type grips if I
want a thicker grip.
Blackie 
#598
General Discussion / Re: R51 Slide Issue
December 22, 2016, 09:58:41 AM
Quote from: Texas-Mark on December 22, 2016, 08:03:38 AM
Quote from: RED HORSE on December 14, 2016, 05:08:28 PM
Couple of thoughts.  There is likely a great opportunity for someone to invent a fixture which helps those of us with old hands to disassemble and assemble the R51.

Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on December 16, 2016, 10:08:23 AM
     I too have a big problem with that *&^%$ Action spring. If Remington comes up with a
tool for holding the barrel while removing the slide from the frame, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I love shooting my R51, but I would dang near pay to have it cleaned.

I had tried several different things to help with the disassembly and then the simplest one worked the best. I cut a small block of wood and place it like this and the slide comes right off without having to hold the barrel. I also use it for reassembly as I can't seem to get mine on without having the barrel forward. If you cut the block just the right size, you can also remove/install the takedown lever without having to move the slide.




Howdy, Texas Mark,
You are the hero of every one of us old farts who own an R51. That block of wood trick is a doozie.
From one Texan to another, my channel locks, my barrel and I thank you.
How about working on that *&%$# action spring now?  We will be indebted to you forever!
Blackie

#599
R51 General Discussion / Re: Idea for Remington
December 21, 2016, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: Robert on December 21, 2016, 12:21:28 PM
Hay kawa, we get your pissed that your R51 has problems, but most of your post are negative comments and you said you come here to learn.

I generally have a hands off policy but I am asking you to at least try and be positive for now.

We are all fans of the R51 here and while trying not to be Pollyanna's about it, are hoping Remington will get it right and the R51 will end up being a great gun.

Yes there are too many problems but Remington seems to be determined to take care of customers who have problems.

So watch and learn and participate but try and not make every single post you make negative towards the R51 please.

I do get your comment was made in a joking fashion. On the other hand I ask the other members here to not be too hard on people who are irritated if their R51 has problems and they seem to have an attitude. I can be one hell of a pessimist some times and if I was in kawa's position, I might need counseling myself as I would be irritated also.

Thanks
Robert


Robert,
      I agree with you. Some of us are having problems with our R51s but we are trying out best to fix them. I got my feed problem fixed, still complaining about
the (*&%*  Action spring. But I still love the gun and hope everybody gets their kinks straightened out. I am on my second 1000 rounds on my R51 although it
is really dirty!  Waiting for a threaded barrel so I can put a tool on it to pull out the slide to clean it.    :=}
#600
General Discussion / Re: R51 Slide Issue
December 20, 2016, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: RED HORSE on December 14, 2016, 05:08:28 PM
Couple of thoughts.  There is likely a great opportunity for someone to invent a fixture which helps those of us with old hands to disassemble and assemble the R51.

Second, I'm a little fascinated with all the complaining about pistol not functioning.  I've shot hollow point and ball ammo in mine to the tune of over 300 rounds and haven't had any problems.

Red,
      How about a threaded barrel, with a handle mated to it, and you could screw the handel on the barrel, and hold it while removing the slide from the frame.
Of course, that would not help  with getting the *&^(* action spring out of the slide. I would sure like to see that little lady at the shot show rack my
R51 with one finger!
     As for second, I shoot all types of ammo in my R51, just because I can. I have not tried Tulammo steel case yet, but I have shot about 600 rounds
of Winchester USA Forged which has steel cases, and no problems. It all goes BANG!  No feed problems, ejection problems at all. Oh, I have not
tried aluminium cases. Just because I do not have any.
     Now, if we could just get Remington to listen to us old farts, and do something about that *&#$@ action spring, we would be fat happy cats, right?