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R51 General Discussion / POINT AND SHOOT
« on: December 10, 2017, 02:29:01 PM »
Just a thought,
       I have not seen any discussion on this forum about practicing "point and shoot"
with the R51.    I practice three ways, with the sights, with the CT and point and shoot.
I find that the R52 is very amenable to point and shoot   Up to about 12 yards.
As an aside,  I also find it more enjoyable to shoot tin cans at 50 feet than paper.
For some reason, I hit more beer cans than bulls on paper.    Maybe a product of
a misspent youth shooting at them with a .22?
Comments? :) :) :)
Blackie     

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 idiosyncrasies
« on: December 10, 2017, 01:36:10 PM »
  Blackie, Are you using the same brand of ammo in all of your shooting? Some mfgs. or brands of ammo have dirtier burning powder, especially the cheaper stuff. Just a thought.FRED


Fred,
I am shooting Winchester white box, Winchester USA Forged,  Ruger ARX,  and all the other usual suspects.   I am  not partial.
Your average shooter would be shooting  the bargain of the day.   That is what I am doing.   I will not shoot Russian steel though!
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 idiosyncrasies
« on: December 10, 2017, 01:38:30 AM »
I mentioned in an earlier post that I was not cleaning my R51 after any range sessions.
So far, it has had about 300 rounds through it dirty.   No problems.
Blackie

I know you are doing that for testing purposes to see how long it will last like that, but I am a clean freak. I clean my baby after each range session. Nothing like a nice shiny gun!  :)


R51Fan,
     Be advised, I am not carrying the gun during this period.   I may be crazy but I ain't  stupid!
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / R51 idiosyncrasies
« on: December 09, 2017, 09:45:42 AM »
I mentioned in an earlier post that I was not cleaning my R51 after any range sessions.
So far, it has had about 300 rounds through it dirty.   No problems.
Blackie

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Photos - Remington R51 photos / Re: Holsters, one more time
« on: December 09, 2017, 09:05:21 AM »
Thanks Dutch!

Only outfit that has them for the gun with the CT Laserguard that I can find.
And only a couple models that look good to me.

I want a single belt clip, but don't like the looks of that plastic one, behind the actual holster.
While it might be OK, I would rather have spring sheet metal.

In any case, I haven't been able to order one, all day today.
It either goes to "Page not available", when I try to order, or just goes bank again after I have put in all the particulars.

Plus, I don't get their two "add on" extras,  the J Hook, or the "V clip"?
If I thought the V clip was metal, I would likely be happy.  But it's not clear at all, at least to me.

But, we will get there, sooner of later.
Likely have to call them Monday.



Choke,
     I made a holser for my R51/CT  and it works great.    There are plenty of websites dedicated to making gun leather,
and I really enjoyed making my holster,  in fact, I have holsters for my  1811s,  my Rugers, Remingtons and Tokarevs.
Oh, and my Colt 1903s and 08s.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Ordered up another r51
« on: December 09, 2017, 09:00:10 AM »
Like Blackie said in a previous thread, they are all Keyboard Kowboys. They just post wildly inaccurate assertions about something just cause, or like funflyer just said, they are idiots. Who cares frankly. The gun is a success in my book, and I will definitely be acquiring more in the future.



R51Fan,
     My smoke should be here about the first of next week.   Then I  will order the bone grips.   It should look awesome.   I have
been offering the R51 to other shooters to try when they comment on it.   Some negative,   I hand then the gun, slide open,  and mag, tell them to insert the mag,
and slingshot the mag.   It goes boom 7 times.   They love it.   Am I an ambassador for Big Green, or r51pistol.com?
I prefer to think the later.    We need to be recognized as an authority on the R51.    Just my opinion.
Blackie
       

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R51 General Discussion / Re: New R51 Smokes at Bud's.
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:42:35 AM »
Cheap as Dirt just let me know that they now have them a well.
$317, I think it was.

But too late for me, the second one is black as well.

I wonder if they would work a swap with you like Bud's did for Blackie. If your second one could still be described as new in box, they might. That is if you want to part with you black one.


R51 Fan,
     It has been my experience that most gun stores, once the gun goes out the door, it is considered used.
Worth a try though.   Bud's is usually pretty reasonable. Never bought anything from
CTD.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Mags
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:39:13 AM »
Midway has R51 mags on sale for $24.99.   They appear to be Gen II mags.
Blackie


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/922173/remington-magazine-remington-r51-9mm-luger-7-round-stainless-steel

I wonder if we could contact MagPull or P Mag and see if they would be interested in doing a polymer mag for the R51 with all the improvements we have made to it?  Sheesh, why Remington can't seem to mag a decent mag for this thing is beyond me. I'm on number three right now, and the third one was worse than the other two.....until I fixed it.


R51 Fan,
     I modified the first three, and they now work fine.    The last two that Big Green sent me,  with the new (?) part numbers
#4 and #5 are at 50%.  #4 is FUBAR, #5 feeds fine.   I am still trying to get #4 up to snuff.   Working on the bent  piece that stops the
mag follower from flying out of the mag.   This to me, smacks of piss poor quality control.  (pardon the French)
Blackie

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I asked for two new replacement mags.  I got them via UPS about two months later.  I am a happy R51 owner and will continue to support Remington and not complain.  Remington is a very important American company with a LOT of history behind them.  Remington's efforts during our wars have saved many lives!  Don't ever forget that!!!!!!!!!


Armed citizen,
     You are absolutely right,  but they should not rest on their laurels!
Somebody upstairs at Big Green that makes the big decisions is lax in their
job.   I cannot imagine that we, on this forum are the only ones bitching about
the mags and trigger.   Any company worth it's salt should keep a finger
on their customers pulse!
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R 51 trigger
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:26:26 AM »

But my biggest complaint with the trigger is that its wobbly.  I don't think it is the plastic flexing, but I could be wrong.

Has anyone been able to figure out the source of the wiggle?

That is my main complaint too.  Too wobbly and too narrow. 8)


The biggest problem with the stock trigger is that the pivot pin hole is oversized and fits sloppy on the pin. This is where all the lateral trigger movement is coming from. You can see this after field-stripping and looking at the trigger where the return spring is. A simple fix would be to bush this hole and then ream it for a precision pin fit.

If I were going to machine a new trigger I would do a few mods to it to improve things over the stock trigger. It would be wider near the trigger bar for a much better fit to give lateral stability. It would have an over-travel stop and, it would curve forward near the end to prevent finger bite. I think this would improve its look and also match the gun nicely.


Funflyer,
     You hit the nail on the head!    I fear that sooner or later, that the hole will ream itself out, and then where we.   We
need a metal replacement trigger.    I know we need one, but it is above my pay grade to  make one.  I am a lowly
electronic tech.   Big Green needs to buckle down, fix the mags and the trigger, and they will have an awesome
firearm.   They are making us do all the work!   (FOR FREE)!
Blackie


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R51 General Discussion / R51 Mags
« on: December 07, 2017, 02:14:05 PM »
Midway has R51 mags on sale for $24.99.   They appear to be Gen II mags.
Blackie


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/922173/remington-magazine-remington-r51-9mm-luger-7-round-stainless-steel


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R51 General Discussion / Re: R 51 trigger
« on: December 07, 2017, 02:05:47 PM »
Any machinists in this forum that could fabricate an all metal SOLID NOT SKELETONIZED trigger for this pistol? Like JD said, I would sure be a first customer.
R51fan,
     Skeletonized or not, I would love a couple of all metal triggers.   
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: New R51 Smokes at Bud's.
« on: December 07, 2017, 02:02:58 PM »
Cheap as Dirt just let me know that they now have them a well.
$317, I think it was.

But too late for me, the second one is black as well.

I wonder if they would work a swap with you like Bud's did for Blackie. If your second one could still be described as new in box, they might. That is if you want to part with you black one.


R51,
     I took a hit  on the trade, but I had 6 SR1911s I bought after Pookie got elected the second time.
I am getting ready to order the bone grips from Keefer.   Then I will have a killer looking R51.
Blackie

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Remington R51 Facts and Specs / Re: twist rate?
« on: December 06, 2017, 04:48:29 AM »
I wondered because I had some ammo [tulammo] that was tumbling at the 25 yd. target.  And I also found some oval holes in the tgt.

I'm thinking that this might be the reason for the sub-par accuracy. 8)


JD,
Just got an email from Big Green,  It is 1 in 10 inches.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Twist rate
« on: December 06, 2017, 12:15:53 AM »
I forget who asked now, but Remington says the twist rate
on the R51 is 1 in 10 inches.
Blackie''

 "The twist rate is 1 in 10" on this model". 

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