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General Discussion / Re: R51 Slide Issue
« on: Today at 07:43:03 AM »
Hello,  I'm new to the forum.  I have probably put 2000 rounds thru my R51 and although I never really had a problem racking 7 rounds...
the last couple hundred rounds the slide suddenly doesn't hold open on the last round.
I clean it every 200 rounds or so and have had the same 4 mags since I purchased it. Any ideas?
  As a side note... I was told by a friend to always keep your mags fully loaded at all times (especially on the R51) to help break in the mag springs because that 7th round is tight.


Arkis,
     Do you have more than one Magazine?  And, if so, does the gun not hold open with either mag?
Remington recommends to lock the slide open, insert the fully loaded magazine, pull the slide back
and release it.  i think most of us have had magazine problems.  I took out the mag follower on my mags and removed about 3/16" off
each leg.  Don't know what to tell you about the slide staying closed after the last round.   Try shooting only 6 rounds, see it the slide locks open.
It could either be a damaged mag, or it could be the slide locking lever.
Blackie 

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Introductions section / Re: New Member from Missouri
« on: Today at 07:34:58 AM »
Hello..   My name is Arlis and I purchased my R51 back in May of this year (despite all the negative reviews) and I love it. I happened onto your forum while looking for rubber grip panels by accident and decided to sign up to communicate with other R51 owners. I am looking forward to learning and contributing to the R51 community..... Arlis Peach


Welcome aboard Arlis,
      You have come to the right place,   if you need any help, you will get it here.
Blackie   

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Purchase a Used R51?
« on: October 18, 2017, 01:22:48 AM »
Thanks Blackie!
So that is it, the Is all were made in NC while the IIs are made in AL?

I have to call a few places and see if anyone has one or more on the line to rent.  Sure would like to shoot one before buying.

I got bit that way with a Bobreg.
Liked the design, havent had one failure of any kind, BUT it tears up my trigger finger and the knuckle on the finger next to it.

Trigger guard is too small, and my hands are too old and decrepet!    It is "supposed" to be lighter recoiling but to me, its the kickingnest 9mm that I have ever shot!

81 and arthritis ain't fun!

BTW, Chokejug is something I seemed to have to change to while signing up here.  The software seemed to think that I was a robot, and I had to chage enough things around to get by it!
My normal screen name is Jugchoke, as in the shotgun game.  And yes, I have jugchoked cylinder bore barrels, by hand.  Shades of old V. M. Starr!

Chokejug,
     I went to a western store and bought a set of goatskin leather riding gloves after my R51 nibbled on my hand.   Works great now.   And for some reason
the right hand glove is not getting chewed up.  Maybe your hand will like the 9MM better with a shooting glove?
I don't really care what anybody thinks about me using gloves on the range,   Makes 83 fun!     I shoot comfortable.  If I have to defend myself, I can stand the slide bite.
Blackie

BTW, is that a Bobreg or a Boberg?  I tried to goggle it.

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Purchase a Used R51?
« on: October 17, 2017, 08:49:13 AM »
Funny, I just saw a couple advertized.
But they wanted virtually new price and that turned me off, immediately!

Now, it does seem like some of you guys with lots of experience here, might be fine with it.

But especially because of so little difference in price, I am going to pass!


Chokejug,
     Check on the right side of the gun, if it says "Charlotte, NC, walk away, it is now made in Huntsville, Al.  Buy it
and read the comments on here.
Blackie

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Russc2542, said,
"That's why it's important to talk to the manufacturer when you have problems rather than just b**** about it online or to friends".. ==============


If we hadn't talked about it on line and to our friends on this blog,  we would not have the
fixes we got!   We now have functioning R51s.  Remington has not been forthcoming at all with us. 
Blackie   

ha, I said not JUST talk about it online. I never said don't talk about it online. If anyone tries to tell me I can't open the hood, take it apart, or find ways to improve I say "Challenge accepted!". "No user serviceable parts" only pertains to the warranty period.

BUT I also know from common sense and experience building a workorder system from scratch at work and being the complaints funnel, I've lost track of the number of times I'm trying to find out why something is wrong, go and ask users and hear "oh that's never worked. It didn't work when they gave it to us so I never used it". Meanwhile, when I DO get feedback on the system I help support, the vendor we work with usually has stuff fixed in a few days.

Russc2542,
     99% of the time you will be right,   But if you have really read the comments on here,  you will se that nobody is getting help from the vendor
Three or four of us have been promised the upgraded magazines,, yet the only person to get any was Wiley Clapp.  Who got two of them plus
ammo after Remington said they were not shipping them yet.  . That is not cooperation,  that is sucking up to the gun magazines and writers.
I did not accuse you of saying don't talk about it.   
Blackie

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Russc2542, said,
"That's why it's important to talk to the manufacturer when you have problems rather than just b**** about it online or to friends".. ==============


If we hadn't talked about it on line and to our friends on this blog,  we would not have the
fixes we got!   We now have functioning R51s.  Remington has not been forthcoming at all with us. 
Blackie   

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Introductions section / Re: Hello, from Galveston Island
« on: October 06, 2017, 01:13:49 AM »
The two photos I posted of the targets were shot at a distance of 5 yards on an indoor range using a 2 handed grip.



I am still wearing a few scabs from slide bite. This is from my own carelessness. I was gripping the pistol too deep into my big paws. The effect is a LOT less than I experienced with a Sig 230 in .380.

WrongWay,
       I also have "Bearpaw" hands, so I went to a western wear shop and purchased a set of light weight riding gloves.   That put a stop to Slide bite.
I have heard it said that that is not a proper way to practice because you won't be wearing gloves when the SHTF.   Well, in my opinion,  if that
happens, I will not be worrying about sllde bite.
Enjoy your new pistol,  I love mine.
Blackie 

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Old shooter, rookie at this forum. Glad y'all are here, because I've got the exact same problems.

Finding posts on this forum indicating the new mags have a DIFFERENT PART NUMBER is a huge red flag that Remington goofed, figured it out and fixed it, but stealthily took a "buyer beware" approach to buyers who took them at their word that the Gen 1 problems were fixed.

Why not send out replacement mags to owners and handle this the right way? Embarrassing, surely, but better to admit it openly and fix it gracefully.

I wrote Rem CS asking for 3 replacement mags (I'd bought a third one), and hope to get the "good stuff" this time.

In the meantime, I should remove about 3/16" from the bottoms of my mag followers to get proper use out of them?

Because there's no master list of who has or doesn't have a R51. Frankly failure to feed isn't a safety concern in the eyes of the establishment the same way firing when undesired to do so so there's no recall. Further, as evidenced by this forum, many users have already modified the original mags to function satisfactorily. In your later message you state that they were agreeable to sending replacements which I think is satisfactory, especially if they aren't demanding return of the old ones.

That being said, I better go take a look at mine since I bought 4 more from midway a few weeks ago.


Russc,
     I checked the part numbers on the Mags that came with my R51 and it is #17696.   The part number on the two mags that Rem is shipping (?)
to me is #F304502.   Could be thay upgraded and aren't publicizing it?
Blackie

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Introductions section / Re: New Member Introduction
« on: September 29, 2017, 05:50:33 AM »
I have been reading about magazine springs and it seems even the experts do not
know what goes on with springs.   According to some,  magazines can be left loaded for
years and not lose tension.  On the other side, they say only leave them for a few months.
Blackie

http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/magazine-springs-and-ammo-cycling/

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Article by Wiley Clapp on American Rifleman
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:44:03 AM »
The plot thickens...

I suppose the bean counters and execs are busy counting up the number of pistols sold and multiplying by the cost of new magazines times 2 before they are willing to admit [again] that they didn't have all of the kinks worked out last September.
That said, I have seen a couple of manufacturers release updated designs to magazines without recalling the old, giving out new for free, or even "admitting" to anything in particular.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk


Kirk,
     I received an email from Remington telling me I would be receiving two magazines in the mail with a shipment date of 09/28. 
The part number is F304502.  WOnder when the mags will arrive.   Could this be another year and a half wait?
Blackie
 

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No offense, but why don't you just live with what you have? The R51 isn't a target pistol and the trigger is perfectly fine for the defense role (for which this pistol is intended). Not sure what the big deal is...

No offense Plunkster
If you are satisfied  with a pistol designated as a self defense weapon, that has a
proclivity to act up at times, fine.  But the rest of us want something that works all the time.
Blackie

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A bit over a year ago I contacted Galloway Precision to ask if they would be making replacement triggers for the R51.  Brandyn Langston, Lead Gunsmith for Galloway responded that they would be but that they'd be taking their time about it to make sure that 1) they got their product right and 2) that the Gen 2 wasn't going to be a flop.

Now, a year and a month later, I contacted them again to ask for an update.  This is the one-sentence response that I received from Mr. Langston: "We're not going to be making any parts for the R51."

Given that the trigger is one of the biggest complaints about the R51, the side-to-side "wobble" and that many people describe the trigger itself as "cheesy plastic" I am very disappointed in this turn.  While there are other manufacturers which make drop in replacement triggers, I considered Galloway to be the best candidate.  Perhaps they may change their mind at some point in the future if they get enough interest from R51 owners.  They do have products for the RM380 and the RP9, after all.

:(

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk


Kirk,
     I suppose one could go to a reputable machine shop and have a trigger made.
The heck with Galloway.  This is what I intend to do.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Article by Wiley Clapp on American Rifleman
« on: September 26, 2017, 05:13:37 AM »
For what it may be worth, I talked with one of the Remington service people about two weeks ago. They told me the R51 magazines were not being shipped, due to the fact they are currently under evaluation. There were no other details related.

Neilin,
     So if they are not being shipped, that begs the question,  How did ol' Wiley Clapp get two new ones so quickly.
Oh,  forgot, he is a magazine writer.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Article by Wiley Clapp on American Rifleman
« on: September 25, 2017, 07:00:05 AM »
This article is generally positive and goes into excruciating detail regarding the Pederson block.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/9/22/second-chance-remington-s-revised-r51-pistol/

Given how long we've been talking about magazine mods here, I thought this bit was interesting:

"...I was most interested in seeing how the new R51 shot... There were problems with the first two magazines. The pistol would not efficiently strip the top round out of the magazine and feed it into the chamber. After a fair amount of effort expended, including several trips to the range, I gave up and reported the problem to Remington.

In short order, I received new magazines. With a variety of ammunition, I headed back to the range and enjoyed a morning of completely trouble-free shooting. The gun functioned perfectly with the new magazines."



SCurmudgeon,
     After further thought,  All, or most of us have had the same problem that Wiley Clapp had with the mags.   We cannot, like good ol' Wiley, call Remington and
say, Hi, I am a popular well respected writer of gun reviews, and I need a couple of new magazines, and presto, they are in the mail. 
Remington should fess up and let us know one way or the other what they did to the magazines, or if they even did anything other than change part numbers.
Big Green is still keeping us in the dark.   Pity their web page does not have a "Tell the CEO" button like Ruger's does. 
Blackie
     

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Article by Wiley Clapp on American Rifleman
« on: September 24, 2017, 04:39:03 AM »
This article is generally positive and goes into excruciating detail regarding the Pederson block.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/9/22/second-chance-remington-s-revised-r51-pistol/

Given how long we've been talking about magazine mods here, I thought this bit was interesting:

"...I was most interested in seeing how the new R51 shot... There were problems with the first two magazines. The pistol would not efficiently strip the top round out of the magazine and feed it into the chamber. After a fair amount of effort expended, including several trips to the range, I gave up and reported the problem to Remington.

In short order, I received new magazines. With a variety of ammunition, I headed back to the range and enjoyed a morning of completely trouble-free shooting. The gun functioned perfectly with the new magazines."



SCurmudgeon,
     It is a comprehensive and well thought out article.
However, I do not see any of us getting a new set of magazines as rapidly as Mr. Wiley  . (In short order)!   Much less a "variety of ammunition".
Blackie

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