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R51 General Discussion / Re: Issue running 7 + 1
« on: August 18, 2017, 10:43:18 PM »
I had much the same problem with mine.  I shortened the follower about 1/16th of a inch and it has been smooth sailing since.  Several others have done the same.

Vic


Vic,
     All three of my mags had the same problem.  I shortened the legs on the followers 3/16 of an inch and no more
problems.  I do not know who is making the mags for the R51 but you would think they would get the message
from the customers.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Comfortable shooting
« on: August 10, 2017, 02:28:53 AM »
I have read several posts about "Slide Rash" etc.   I am 82.  I cured this problem with a
pair of leather riding gloves.   These are thin leather gloves that I use for shooting and driving.
Worked for me.
Blackie

https://www.cavenders.com/western/accessories/work/work-gloves/2110001

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R51 General Discussion / Gun Test magazine
« on: August 05, 2017, 09:23:46 AM »
I made a mistake and ordered "Gun Test"  magazine, and to my surprise, the first
Issue I received, (Aug 2017), had a review on the Remington R51. 
I have never read such a bunch of malarkey in my life.   I have read of problems on here
that we straightened out, but nothing compared to the crap that "Gun Test" put out.
It appears that the writers know nothing about firearms, nor their workings.
They claimed that the gun would not shoot any but one brand of ammo,
Overly bitched about the trigger, and magazines.   It is obvious they  never read
R51 General Discussion.  Needless to say, I wrote "Cancel" on my first
invoice.

Blackie   

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Fire Sale + Rebate
« on: August 05, 2017, 07:38:24 AM »
Mine was $280 before the rebate.  Hard to pass up for that price.
I don't think the low price is because the R51 will be phased out.  Many manufacturers are having rebates and lower prices.

Zenshot,
     From what i have been reading, a lot of people have slacked up on firearm purchases since we put ol' Obama out of office.
Or is it just my imagination?  Whatever the reason, lower firearm prices are always welcome.
My first .22 "J Frame" Smith and Wesson, purchased in 1958, in a pawn shop in Va Beach, Va cost me $25.00. 
Wish I had it today.  Another of those "If Onlys".
Blackie

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Other Guns - talk about them here / Re: CZ75 vs R51
« on: July 27, 2017, 12:44:14 AM »

Actually, Dutch, my R51 will eat anything I put in it.   Even Winchester USA Forged steel cartridge.   I do not use the Russian stuff except in Russian guns.
Too dirty. I have large hands also, but I went down to Cavender's western Wear and bought a pair of riding gloves.  They work great. 
Blackie

The Wolf ammo hangs in the magazines, like it is just slightly too long.  I shortened the follower legs by 3/16", but that doesn't prevent the hangs against the front of the mag and the resultant FTF.  My Beretta 92FS, CZ75 and Sig P226 Blackwater all feed the Wolf ammo with no hangups whatsoever.

I think the R51 problem is mag related.  Even when manually stripping the cartridges (any cartridge, btw) out of the mags by hand, they feel like they're catching on something.  None of my other pistols, including the .380 CZ83 do that.  The cartridges all slide out easily and smoothly.  Not so the R51.


Dutch,
     I have noticed the same thing when removing cartridges from my R51 mags.  Seems they have a tendency to nose down.  But, when shooting, they feed correctly.
Blackie

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Other Guns - talk about them here / Re: CZ75 vs R51
« on: July 26, 2017, 02:29:51 AM »
I had both the CZ75 SP-01 Tactical and the Remington R51 to the range yesterday.  The CZ75 is a far superior weapon to shoot, both for comfort and accuracy.

That is obviously to be expected as the CZ75 has a longer barrel, heavier weight for better recoil and a larger grip for my big mitts.

The ONLY advantages to the R51 are that ii is easily concealable and has the CT laser for easier target acquisition.  It really hurts my hands to shoot, so for me it's a lousy range gun.  It is also much more picky when it comes to ammo.  It does NOT like the Russian Wolf brand, resulting in several FTF's.

I may just sell the R51 and use my CZ83 for CC.  Even though it's only a .380, with Buffalo Bore ammo it hits pretty hard.



Actually, Dutch, my R51 will eat anything I put in it.   Even Winchester USA Forged steel cartridge.   I do not use the Russian stuff except in Russian guns.
Too dirty. I have large hands also, but I went down to Cavender's western Wear and bought a pair of riding gloves.  They work great. 
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / R51 Holster
« on: July 02, 2017, 05:17:14 AM »
This Holster just found on Amazon.   Looks pretty good.
Blackie


https://www.amazon.com/0801-Remington-Barrel-Holster-Black/dp/B00KH5LK7K

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Front Sight
« on: July 02, 2017, 04:32:10 AM »
Who sells a replacement front sight that is lower to raise point of impact?  Thanks.

paul,
     Have you tried "Military Center Hold".  This is what the R51 sights are set up for. 



http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Review-Remington-R51.html

 "Point of Impact (POI) was "Combat" or "Military Center Hold" instead of traditional Target Shooting hold, which I found to be the same as on the Remington 1911R1. If you try to aim by putting the bottom edge of the bull on the top of the front dot, everything will go just below the bull. Instead, place the center of the dot at center of the bull. When the sights are lined up, the hits will go right in the front dot and accurately so. Accuracy with the Gen 2 R51 was quite good".

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Feeding Problems
« on: June 30, 2017, 12:58:25 PM »
Dutch,
     Remove the follower from the magazine.  You will see four "legs" on the bottom of the follower.   Shorten each one equally by 3/16 inch.
no more, no less. I used my Dremel cutting wheel for this.

I wonder if they have changed things in the mag.  My follower does not have four legs on the bottom.  It has two square U-shaped extensions on the bottom - one at the front and one at the rear.  I guess I should shorten each of these two extensions by 3/16".  Correct?

I can take a photo, if it will help my description.



Dutch,
     You are right, I was going by memory, and that is a no-no to start with.  do like you said.   sorry 'bout that.
Blackie

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General Discussion / Firearm safety
« on: June 28, 2017, 05:07:07 AM »
     I know I am going to get tons of flack over this, but it is what I believe, and I am entitled to
my opinion.   The proof of this lies right next door to the 2ND Amendment, which I
adhere to and believe in.

     People are dying because they do not understand firearms and what they can do
if you do not respect them.  They do not understand the difference between a real
gun and a toy gun. 

     I firmly believe that any person who is purchasing a firearm for the first time should
be trained in firearm safety.   And required to furnish proof of that upon purchase.
Blackie

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/28/charges-filed-after-youtube-gun-stunt-gone-wrong-leaves-boyfriend-dead.html



 
 

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Feeding Problems
« on: June 26, 2017, 01:44:30 PM »
It has been quiet about feeding problems, rounds nosediving in magazine, etc. Does this mean that nobody is seeing problems currently?

Paul,
I think most of the guys who have had their R51s for a while have ironed out the problems.  If you have a problem,
start a new string, and tell us what the problem is.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Feeding Problems
« on: June 26, 2017, 01:42:19 PM »
This was before shortening the followers on 2 mags, have one that is still stock.
Will find out Tuesday at range if follower shortening and rounding off, shortening follower stopis issue.

Could you provide specifics or a link on how to do this?  TIA

Dutch,
     Remove the follower from the magazine.  You will see four "legs" on the bottom of the follower.   Shorten each one equally by 3/16 inch.
no more, no less. I used my Dremel cutting wheel for this. 
When you remove the spring from the mag, be sure it goes back in the same way. 

If you need help holding the barrel to field strip the R51, here is what I use to hold the barrel, with "U-Tube"  instructions.  Hope it helps.
Blackie

     https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OXOA0EA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5bycStOxFo

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R51 General Discussion / Re: First 300 Shots
« on: June 26, 2017, 08:27:11 AM »
SCurmudgeon,
     When you "slingshot" the slide, do you pull back and release it, or by the slide lock?
My slide can now be racked with a full mag, but like you say, it is difficult.
The R51 sights are set up to cover the target bull, not under it.  Don't ask me why, it is a
military thing.  Kirk can explain it to you.  Instead of holding the sight at the base of the
bull, cover the bull.   I do not know why Remington did this.
I also have problems with that dang bushing.
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Replacement barrel
« on: June 21, 2017, 08:26:52 AM »
Kirk,
     Glad it seems to be working.  Is it possible that the barrels are not quite quality as controlled as Remington thinks they are?   My neighbor ordered one, and it
plunked great, but would not drop into the slide.  Breech was a hair too wide.
We don't really know where these flea-bay barrels come from.  They may be factory seconds, test runs, or liquidated stock from the Gen 1.  They don't come directly from Remington or have a Remington warranty so it's a gamble.  That is part of the reason why I waited so long to buy one.

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What is "Dead Trigger"?
Blackie
Maybe sometimes called a "slack trigger."  Round is chambered but the trigger does "catch" and won't release the sear.  I'm currently conjecturing that some slight variance in the rebuilt round is tweaking the Out Of Battery Disconnect.  This is very frustrating to me because I know the rounds are safe and I measure and verify them constantly.  They always measure to within SAAMI tolerances, I follow the printed procedures and Best Practices to the letter, and they function fine in all other firearms I've tried them in.  The R51 is just more finicky about ammo.  <sigh>

Still, using the new barrel, I did not have any feed related issues, but more testing is required.  I will build another box of ammo (hopefully this week) to further test my reloads against this new barrel.

To clarify my process for 9mm reloads:
I use a Lee single stage press.  I wash the brass, then tumble in walnut media.  I use a Lee 9mm Carbide die set, setup and adjusted in accordance with the pamphlet supplied with the set.  I use the resizing and depriming die.  Then I use the Belling die, also setup and adjusted to the Lee pamphlet spec, and the Lee Safety Prime on-press priming system.  The brass comes out clean, belled, and primed.  Each piece of brass gets individually inspected before it goes into the die and after it comes out.  So, by this point, each piece has been visually inspected 4 times (two dies, in and out).  Then I powder and seat the bullet.  To do this, I verify the powder drop weight on my scale (I always choose a load which is under maximum charge weight).  Then I drop the powder directly into the brass and visually inspect the charge to see if it "looks" right.  Then, immediately, the single piece of brass (primed, belled, and now charged) goes into the press with the Seating Die (again, adjusted to the Lee pamphlet specs), receives a bullet, and is seated.  It comes out and visually inspected.  I will spot-check OAL (Over All Length, aka COAL - Cartridge Over All Length) to ensure that the bullet is seated to proper depth with a caliper.  About every 15-25 rounds or so, I spot-check again.  Most people who reload will use the Seating Die to apply a crimp.  I used to do this until my R51 proved finicky about the crimp diameter.  I can only crimp it down so hard using the Seating Die before the crimp is too much tucked in and the case mouth starts slipping past the Shoulder when inserted into the Chamber.  Bad Juju.  So I stopped using the Seating Die to crimp and bought a Lee Factory Crimp Die.  This cranks the crimp down to perfect SAAMI spec, won't "over-crimp" or curl the crimp in an allow the cartridge to funnel itself past the Shoulder.  I also spot-check the crimp using calipers.

I've used 3 different bullet shapes from 3 different manufacturers; all in 115 gr. hard cast Lead Round Nose (Black Bullets, SNS Casting, and Missouri Bullet Company), "coated" bullets.  This R51, with the original barrel, pretty much hates all of them but likes factory new 115gr. copper FMJ.  I have ordered 125gr. Lead Cone Nose bullets from Missouri Bullet Company to see if my R51 will like that bullet shape better.

I'm not used to guns being this picky.  My first Gen 2 R51 wasn't.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk


Kirk,
     I forgot to ask,  Is the new barrel from Flea bay this picky?
Blackie

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Replacement barrel
« on: June 21, 2017, 08:24:59 AM »
Kirk,
     I am not sure what the law is on mailing ammo from one person to another,  But if there is any way,  I would like to take 7 rounds of the
reloads that are giving you fits, and try it in my R51.   As I said recently, there is not a brand of ammo that I have tried that does not function
perfectly in my Gen II.
Two different things going on.
Shipping ammo, either factory new or reloads: Perfectly legal but must be shipped through a Private Carrier (such as UPS) and use the ORM-D subset of HazMat code.  This usually means "expensive."
Second is that reloaders cannot sell new manufactured or remanufacture ammunition unless they have a federal license.

So I could donate the rounds to you, legally.  We could probably trade for stuff, or even "reimburse" for materials cost, but not my time but that becomes sketchy area.

In short, I could send the ammo to you by Private Carrier, but their shipping costs are usually more than I'd like and they usually force me to jump through hoops like only accepting shipment at their central shipping facility.  The "UPS Store" isn't allowed to take ORM-D, HazMat, or even guns for shipping.

FWIW, these rounds run fine in my other 9mm guns.  I've given 25 rounds to a friend who will shoot them through his Glock.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk




    Kirk,
,That being said,  I guess It would be illegal for me to "Compensate" you for shipping costs.   Any way,  it was just a thought.
Blackie
 

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