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General Discussion / Re: R51 after action report.
« on: February 06, 2019, 12:38:56 AM »
Re: combat sighting.  That DOES seem to be the case with this gun. As an old Service Rifle shooter, 6:00 is a very difficult habit to break. Combat sighting isn't conducive to best accuracy either.
I had the same problem.  Hard habit to break.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: R51 after action report.
« on: February 04, 2019, 12:26:06 AM »
2) Very accurate too. Hits VERY low with every 115gr load I have tried, though.  Reminds me of my old Arcus HP close in that regard. Looked round the site, and it may be the sights are designed for combat sight picture; place center dot (not top edge of the sight) where you want the bullet to go. Developing story.
Remington pistols seem to come from the factory with a Combat Center Hold sight alignment.



Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Trigger work
« on: January 22, 2019, 06:48:01 AM »
I'll be releasing a metal trigger soon, should help out a bit. Disassembly is easy, just need to drift out a couple of pins.
Youtube vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwOgYMJtFnk

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Threaded Barrels Available!
« on: January 22, 2019, 03:09:40 AM »
Just an FYI, I'm down to our last 5. Probably will be a little while before the next run, metal anti-wobble triggers are the next item to run  8)
I'll put aside a little money to save for it.  :)

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Trigger - Who wants a metal one?
« on: January 18, 2019, 12:24:16 AM »
What I dislike about the R51 trigger isn't so much that it's plastic.  Actually that doesn't bother me at all.  It's the slight side-to-side wiggle that bugs me.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R-51 Concealed Carry w/ Crimson Trace
« on: January 18, 2019, 12:22:50 AM »
For a close defense pistol I would forego the laser completely and practice instintive point and shoot.....with both hands....no, not together..one handed, left and right. The ergonomics of the R51 are designed for rhat style of shooting.
Turns out that a laser works better and is kinda an evolution of the Threat Focused/Target Focused shooting, particularly for shooters who can't practice much:

http://blog.krtraining.com/red-dot-study-key-points/

Apparently during a Target Focused shooting event the shooter focuses on the threat and immediately pulls the trigger once it's anywhere on the threat and more often scores a quicker "first hit."

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: 7 + 1
« on: January 14, 2019, 03:59:40 AM »
Yes, do let us know...

Don't you think it's somewhat ridiculous for us (the consumers) to be forced to try to overcome the production failures of Remington?  Some have measured and adjusted the distance between the lips of the magazine.  Others have trimmed the magazine follower to change its height. Some have substituted magazine springs from other pistols.  And yet, several have received 100% functional R51s right out of the box!

When the R51 is working as intended, it is amazing and I love it!  I'm hoping Remington will fine tune mine as they did HR Funk's pistol.  Either that or replace it with a "100%er"!  I'll keep sending it back on their nickel until they get it right!   :o
Meh.  Magazine flakes are a long time, well known, bugaboo for semi-auto pistols.  Check out the 1911 forums and history.  When new 1911 shooters start having feed problems the advice is ALWAYS to junk the current mag and buy an expensive one from a short-list manufacturer for $50 per mag.  Back before there was was a short-list of "high quality" mags, 1911 shooters would tweak their own mags, just like we're talking about here.  And this is a design that's more than a century old, you'd think they'd have it figured out now, right?  ;)

example: https://rangehot.com/1911-troubleshooting-feed-failures/

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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Introductions section / Re: Introductory post
« on: January 11, 2019, 01:08:29 AM »
Welcome.  :)

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Is Remington still making R51's?
« on: January 03, 2019, 03:43:02 AM »
It's still on Remington's website, they have links to 3 different "vendors" there, and Bud's still lists them as in-stock.

https://www.remington.com/handguns/remington-r51/remington-r51

Might be that Remington has something planned for SHOT.  <shrug>

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: New R51 at the range
« on: January 02, 2019, 06:00:06 AM »
If there are any issues, itís almost always something to do with the magazine.
True with most semi-autos.  :)

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: 9MM Hand Load for the R-51
« on: December 20, 2018, 03:07:02 AM »
Does anyone have a favorite hand load for the R51?  I had worked up a load using HS6 and cast lead bullets for my Smith and Wesson M&P.  When I used it in the R-51, there were indications of over pressure.  I am assuming that because of the delayed blow back system, pressure builds up on a different schedule than in a traditional recoil operated pistol.  Any thoughts?
What over pressure signs are you seeing?  Did you plunk your ammo in it?

I gave up on handloading for the R51 because all the barrels I've had on the Gen 2 had very short Leade/Freebore; probably SAAMI minimum spec at a guess.   I'd get horrible problems with most HC bullets I tried and even some FMJ bullets.  One of them I tried I had to seat the bullet so deep to pass the plunk that it was effectively dangerous setback and didn't feed particularly well anyway.

I only found one 115 gr. HC that I could load for the R51, from SNS Casting, and they changed molds and don't make it any longer.  :(

I'll handload for my other 9mm guns but the R51 now gets a pure diet of 100% factory ammo.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: 9MM Hand Load for the R-51
« on: December 20, 2018, 03:06:24 AM »
My standard 9mm handload works very well in my R51.  Itís a 115 grain Xtreme Heavy Plate Concave Base bullet over 4.3 grains of Bullseye at 1.150 OAL.
What over pressure signs are you seeing?  Did you plunk your ammo in it?

I gave up on handloading for the R51 because all the barrels I've had on the Gen 2 had very short Leade/Freebore; probably SAAMI minimum spec at a guess.   I'd get horrible problems with most HC bullets I tried and even some FMJ bullets.  One of them I tried I had to seat the bullet so deep to pass the plunk that it was effectively dangerous setback and didn't feed particularly well anyway.

I only found one 115 gr. HC that I could load for the R51, from SNS Casting, and they changed molds and don't make it any longer.  :(

I'll handload for my other 9mm guns but the R51 now gets a pure diet of 100% factory ammo.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

I havenít seen any signs of overpressure. 4.3 gr of Bullseye is a rather mild load actually.  I plunk tested the Xtreme 115 grain plated bullets and they plunk fine all the way to just above 1.160 OAL.
Sorry, I clicked the wrong "quote" button.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: 9MM Hand Load for the R-51
« on: December 19, 2018, 05:15:14 AM »
My standard 9mm handload works very well in my R51.  Itís a 115 grain Xtreme Heavy Plate Concave Base bullet over 4.3 grains of Bullseye at 1.150 OAL.
What over pressure signs are you seeing?  Did you plunk your ammo in it?

I gave up on handloading for the R51 because all the barrels I've had on the Gen 2 had very short Leade/Freebore; probably SAAMI minimum spec at a guess.   I'd get horrible problems with most HC bullets I tried and even some FMJ bullets.  One of them I tried I had to seat the bullet so deep to pass the plunk that it was effectively dangerous setback and didn't feed particularly well anyway.

I only found one 115 gr. HC that I could load for the R51, from SNS Casting, and they changed molds and don't make it any longer.  :(

I'll handload for my other 9mm guns but the R51 now gets a pure diet of 100% factory ammo.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: A bit of an ammunition story
« on: November 20, 2018, 06:35:31 AM »
Hi Sean,

one very simple test that I performed last night was I cycled the gun manually with snap caps (short overall length similar to the Remington ball ammo) which gave me the inkling that when I fired the Remington ball this afternoon it was going to be successful. I just ran the same test with some federal Hydro shocks (yeah I know it's kind of risky running live rounds through the action) and it cycled through all seven rounds no problems. Black Talons were a little more inconclusive. I had the slide hang up on round 6. Re-ran the test (without my kitchen timer brapping at me warning that my mac and cheese is about to burn)  with Black Talon and it passed.

Well, that is good news! Hopefully those results will continue with a live fire test. Like you said, it isn't recommended, but it will let you get a good look at what is happening down below. Just for the record, have you polished the tip of the lip of the mag lip yet, or is it still bone stock (no mods)?

Still bone stock.. Kinda sad, A defensive pistol should swallow anything not just rounds of X length..
A short leade/freebore generally promotes accuracy.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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NRA Certified Rifle Instructor in/near Lewistown, PA needed to assist with youth High School air rifle team.

I have a friend who has managed to convince his PA HS to start an Air Rifle team. They've put him in charge of it, even given him a budget for equipment. But he needs an NRA certified rifle instructor. Maybe an RSO too, I don't know yet.

If you can help, or put him in touch with one, respond here or PM me.

Thanks!

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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