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R51 General Discussion / Re: No folks, I lieth not
« on: January 21, 2018, 06:29:26 AM »
Anyone else getting the idea that this mag design was not for this gun when it started?
I think they started with some existing mag and just modified until "it sort of worked"!

I don't own a 1911 to compare, but the R51 mag does appear to use a 1911 shell or very similar. From what I can tell the 1911 9mm and 45 use a similar shell also, but the 9mm has the channels stamped into it for the narrower round and spring. Reading some of the 1911 forums, it does seem that the 1911 is plagued with the same mag problems as our R51, i.e. nosedives, stovepipes etc. Later today I am going over to a friends house and compare his 45 1911 mags with the R51 mags.

Anyone have the Rem 380, the high $ company that tey just bought ought Rorhbaugh or something like that?
Well, Rems new version of that gun uses a mag with a full length spacer welded into the back of it.
I am sure it was Rorhbor's 9mm mags just reworked.
Maybe the original company did both that way, as I believe they made it in both 9mm and 380.

Yes, that's exactly what Rohrbough did. They just dimpled the rear of the R9 mag shell and slipped a spacer in so it would hold the .380 round. Thankfully Remington had the good sense to leave that design alone and not screw with it. Though adding the last round slide hold-open and relocating the mag release was definitely an improvement and they did get that right. My RM380 is a joy to shoot and my favorite small pistol. Can't recall how many rounds I have through it now but it's well north of 300 and it's never had a fail of any kind. I made a new hammer spring seat to reduce the pull weight instead of using the Galloway kit and it has settled in at right around 7 pounds with no light primer strikes.

R51 General Discussion / Re: No folks, I lieth not
« on: January 20, 2018, 07:57:48 AM »
Uh-oh, someone's got too much time on his hands ;D ,or there's bad weather outside.

R51 General Discussion / Re: New R51 range report
« on: January 19, 2018, 11:55:26 AM »
The sight mod was a piece of cake. Just don't tell my wife I cooked it in her oven to cure the powder. I have an oven in the garage but haven't hooked it up yet but she doesn't know that. I was going to order a Dawson sight but it would have had to be machined to contour it smooth like the original. I figured if I screwed up the original I'd call the Green Machine and tell them it fell off and got lost at the range, they'd of thought it was plausible since the gen1's were loose ;)

R51 General Discussion / Slide lock and all thumbs, is it just me?
« on: January 19, 2018, 02:06:22 AM »
Last time I was out with the R51 I wanted to practice some rapid fire, two shot, three shot and sometimes all 7+1 on multiple targets (1-4 seconds). On more than one occasion my my thumb inadvertently contacted the slide lock, causing the slide to either lock open with rounds still in the mag, or fail to lock open on the last round. If I just casually fire at the targets I don't have a problem. Any of you right handed shooters ever have either happen?

R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 fired without cartridge fully seated.
« on: January 17, 2018, 06:15:21 AM »
Don't keep us in suspense, let's see the pics >:(

R51 General Discussion / Re: New R51 range report
« on: January 16, 2018, 11:59:03 PM »
I've been getting too used to the 12 0'clock POA so I decided to cut the original after the last range visit. Cut it from .180" down to .140". Got a chance to try out my Eastwood powder-coating gun today, thought it came out pretty good.

Other Guns - talk about them here / Re: Ruger SR-9E
« on: January 16, 2018, 11:42:37 PM »
Was that a 6 O'clock hold?
OMG, put it between a pair of eyes at 20 yards, clean miss, way over his head!

I'll use the excuse that I've been shooting the R51 too much lately ;D

Other Guns - talk about them here / Re: Ruger SR-9E
« on: January 16, 2018, 01:21:23 AM »
Took the 9E to the range yesterday and was pleasantly surprised. Very nice shooter and extremely accurate. 2-1/2" group at 10 yards on the second mag (10 rounds).

R51 General Discussion / Re: Bet you can't guess...
« on: January 16, 2018, 12:41:53 AM »
FF, check the lips and the bend that stops the follower from rising too far or too little, on that problem mag.

Compare with the ones that work well.

I compared them a while ago and there was difference. The mag with the problem had the lip bent in farther so I bent it out to match the good one. I ordered some different springs last night to try and increase the tension, so we'll see. In the mean time I will call the Green Machine and have them send a new mag. The more we complain to them the sooner they might do something.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Bet you can't guess...
« on: January 15, 2018, 12:00:38 PM »
Okay, took it to the range today and the last round FTF stovepipes still occurred. Only happens with the one mag and with either the original or new follower. So when cleaning the pistol tonight I thought I'd check out the mag spring tension while I was at it.

Turns out the mag spring with the issue exerts about 10 ounces less pressure on the last round than the fail free mag spring does. Not sure how significant that is but have heard about feed issues and such with 1911s when the mag springs get weak.

Wow, that is bad luck Rock. At this point I'd just keep re-seating it whenever it walks and wait for Remington to fix both of them. Let's hope they don't just replace the pin with the same part number and call it good or chances are better than not it will keep happening. An oversized pin would be a few thousands larger just on the splined end if they actually make one. If they don't make one now they better start thinking about it.

Introductions section / Re: Engineerpower!
« on: January 15, 2018, 04:38:53 AM »
Someone's been watching and listening, excellent!

Don't forget the sights as with most R51s the POI is a bit low. I'm sure most owners will want them.

Thanks for joining, and Welcome.

R51 General Discussion / Re: New Trigger Finished, Range Ready
« on: January 15, 2018, 02:59:39 AM »
I agree with everyone else, it looks great and makes me want one. Sell the design to an aftermarket manufacturer! I would like a skeletonized version though...

I thought Galloway made a new trigger during the gen1 era, or was it just the trigger bar?

R51 General Discussion / Re: New R51 range report
« on: January 15, 2018, 02:50:58 AM »
These are supposed to work but I haven't tried them. I'm going to the range today to figure out exactly which height I need and either order one or cut my original.


R51 General Discussion / Re: trigger stop screw
« on: January 15, 2018, 02:46:48 AM »
Looking for the wobble, I can see and feel it.

Shooting the gun, I never even notice it.

Should have been better engineered, granted, but it's actually non-problem.

It works, no doubt, but looks and fits like it was sub contracted to Fisher Price for production.  :P

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