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Photos - Remington R51 photos / Re: Holsters, one more time
« on: December 09, 2017, 07:45:38 AM »
Thanks Dutch!

Only outfit that has them for the gun with the CT Laserguard that I can find.
And only a couple models that look good to me.

I want a single belt clip, but don't like the looks of that plastic one, behind the actual holster.
While it might be OK, I would rather have spring sheet metal.

In any case, I haven't been able to order one, all day today.
It either goes to "Page not available", when I try to order, or just goes bank again after I have put in all the particulars.

Plus, I don't get their two "add on" extras,  the J Hook, or the "V clip"?
If I thought the V clip was metal, I would likely be happy.  But it's not clear at all, at least to me.

But, we will get there, sooner of later.
Likely have to call them Monday.

Other Guns - talk about them here / Re: R51 vs the RM380
« on: December 07, 2017, 03:33:23 AM »
I was completely wrong on them not making any more smoke/silver guns.

They are popping up all over the place right now.

Buds, Cheaper than Dirt and Grab a Gun, at least.

R51 General Discussion / Re: New R51 Smokes at Bud's.
« on: December 07, 2017, 01:17:48 AM »
Cheap as Dirt just let me know that they now have them a well.
$317, I think it was.

But too late for me, the second one is black as well.

Photos - Remington R51 photos / Re: Holsters, one more time
« on: December 06, 2017, 10:52:06 AM »
Well, at least they make one that will fit with a laserguard!

I do need an IWB though.
Guess I had better look into them, thanks!

R51 General Discussion / Re: Slide Impossible to Rack With Full Mag
« on: December 06, 2017, 10:28:44 AM »
As I said somewhere else on here, I think there is at LEAST 3 different magazine itterations.

And with just five magazines total, I have all 3 of them!

I also said, "DONT modify them, UNTIL you have checked them completely out and determined exactly what the problem/s are, if any.

The two that came with my first gun, both needed the follower trimed, and one is still not quite right.
Sometimes it will hold 7 just fine, other times only 6, unless you work with it until you get a click of what I believe is one spring coil overlapping another.  Then it hold 7 just fine. (I havent had it back apart again as yet.)

The third one had a much weaker spring, but works perfectly.  (Bought off E-bay)

The next 2 came with the second gun, (which btw, is older per the SN than the first gun bought).
I think these must have been recalled and replaced.

The first gun came from LGS, while the second came from Cabelas, on pre black Fri sale.

The springs in these two fell "in between" in strength, compared to the first two and the single from E-bay.

Again, #s 1 and 2 needed the bottom of the followers trimed.

Only thing wrong with the next three was that the little "follower stopper" bend in the front lip was overdone on one of them.  Bent it slightly back forward and have't had any other problem with them from day one.

Photos - Remington R51 photos / Re: Holsters, one more time
« on: December 04, 2017, 03:55:03 PM »
Still looking for a hard shell one, that will accept a CT LaserGuard, my belt tension just crushes leather ones.  Hard to get back in the holster after that.

Remington R51 Facts and Specs / Re: twist rate?
« on: December 04, 2017, 03:50:27 PM »
Seen it, but don't remember for sure.

Seemed surprisingly slow, somewhere like 12 or 16 I think.

Other Guns - talk about them here / Re: R51 vs the RM380
« on: December 04, 2017, 03:46:33 PM »
I am beginning to wonder it it really was a "special" run, or maybe just an accident?????
Hey, question for you guys that have them, I surmise "they all" are Alabama frames, right?
No more seem to be forth coming.

With what little I know about anodizing aluminum, I would guess that the "smoked surface", hardening is automatically a bit thinner.  As I said, the darker color sort of portends a thicker, more durable finish in my mind.

That aside, I looked high and wide for one before I bought another black one.

R51 General Discussion / Re: First Range Day with the New R51 and Review
« on: December 04, 2017, 03:28:42 PM »
Mine are both South Carolina frames, no big deal!
I think that they had made up a bunch ahead of time, even sent just the extra frames on down to Alabama.  As long as they meet the final specs, there should be no problem.

My second one, even had an earlier SN then the first one, not by much, but must have been laying on Cabelas shelves a bit.  The first one came from the LGS.

As to magazines and modification, I have a sneaking suspicion that there is at least 3 iterations out there.
I suggest, "DON'T MODIFY" unless you actually have a problem!

I had problems with my first two, modification seems to have cured the problem.
With on slight exception, #1 quite often won't hold but six rounds, without fussing with it a bit.
Comes up solid, but if you keep "jabbing" it down, it with finally snap over somewhere inside and accept that last cartridge.  At first, both #1 and #2 did that, but now only #1.

On to 3.  Right off the bat, I noticed a difference, I loaded it the very first time by bare hand, quite easily actually.  I don't know if someone had sort of "broken in" the spring or what, but it sure was weaker sprung.

#'s 4 & 5, somewhere in between on the spring strength.
But the thing is, none of #3, 4, or 5 magazines needed any mods whatsoever!

OH, and yes, one of mine did have too steep an angle, or was bent too far, meaning that little tab on the front of the mag, meant to stop the follower from raising too far up out of the mag.

They should have used some other means of stopping that follower!

Still have that set of "Big Leaf Western Maple" wood grips, that I had on the first one less than two weeks.  First $20 gets someone a real nice set of a bit thicker than stock, wood grips!
Cant beat that price!

I actually preferred the thinner plastic panels, but did go two tone black and white custom.
Got to get some pictures and get 'em on here!  (Even with my big mits!)

Photos - Remington R51 photos / Re: Holsters, one more time
« on: November 25, 2017, 08:05:25 AM »
I have some of those "two belt clip" models.
Just too big and complicared.
Its not that they are uncomfortable, they  work well.
But are a pain to get and keep adjusted.

I have a couple of "on your six designs", single clip, none or few screws, "O" rings, etc.
So much simpler.
But they dont make one for the R51.

Photos - Remington R51 photos / Re: Holsters, one more time
« on: November 24, 2017, 03:23:37 PM »
I am finding a number of holsters, but none for the gun with a lasre!

I do have a new laser coming but not until next month.

I will have to send it to one of these, if I dont find something acceptable by then.

Photos - Remington R51 photos / Holsters, one more time
« on: November 24, 2017, 04:51:10 AM »
Since the gun with the laserguard is here now, I am serious about a holster to fit it.

The South American leather one I was using has of course worked for the non-laser one for sometime.
However, as with all leather IWB holsters, it is softening and starting to collaspe under the tight belt, when the gun is not in it.
No fun re-holstering when that happens.

Plus, the laser one rides abiut an inch higher, which makes this holster unacceptable as well.

What I really want is either straight Kydex or a leather/neoprene, kydex hybrid.

Single METAL clip, with or without cant adjustment.

Anyone know of such an animal?

General Discussion / Re: Big Day Tomorrow
« on: November 23, 2017, 03:21:47 PM »
One thing I will mention so far as the mags are concerned. I had one, that had the bent lip that wasn't bent in as far as the other. One was grossly bent in too far. The other was not bent in very far by comparison. So I hand fed rounds into them and the mag with the lesser bend, fed fine. The other nosedived on the sixth round. So I went ahead and bent it back and it seems fine now. Next step is to go out and actually put it in the gun, and shoot it to find out if it will work. I wonder if someone is trying to sabotage Remington?????

As far as that bend goes, I am coming to the conclusion that it is at least a semi critical item.
The last two mags, (that came with the last gun), are working fine, no mods as yet, but am having some "nose dive", loading the first cartridge,  Nothing, not a hiccup in firing, just picking up the first round off a newly loaded mag.

I think I am going to straighten that bend just a tad, and polish the lip.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Tritium Sights
« on: November 23, 2017, 03:10:17 PM »
I would  like to put on some "glow" sights, but with what I have done in the last couple of weeks with just the "white paint" dots at night with either or both, a good flashlight or one of those little cap bill lights, why bother?

Four for four, 'possums fleeing the chicken house when I walked up in the dark.

I do have some with "light tubes" as well as the constant glow, and just love them.  They really stand out!  But hey, with tubes on both front and rear sight, they almost touch in the middle of the slide!
Can't remember what they are called just now.

As for "shutting off the laser", I have no problem with the laserguard on my R51, or any other gun that I have them on.  Just ordered another one, for the older R51, (with the newest S/N!)  Midway has a sale on them going on.  Too bad, we are in the same state, damn sales tax!  That took the shine off the sale price, just a little bit.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Keefer grips.
« on: November 23, 2017, 02:51:12 PM »
I have a set of "Big Leaf Western Maple", which  I used for a week, maybe two.
Felt a little better as a "handle", but I am wanting to keep mine as slim as possible.
Just not going to take the originals completely off and go without any, like I have on one or more guns some years back.

Anybody wants them, half price, and something on the postage, make that $22.

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