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R51 General Discussion / Re: Feeding Problems
« on: August 07, 2017, 04:22:42 AM »
I've bought a CZ75 compact to carry now.  Chubby and not as stylish, but it just works.

I love shooting the CZ75.  It might not be as sexy as an R51, but has a classic style of its own.  Unfortunately the CZ75 grip is a bit too wide and slide release and trigger reach a tad bit long to be ideally suited to me.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Fire Sale + Rebate
« on: August 07, 2017, 03:03:44 AM »
I do remember long lines at the local outdoor big box store gun buying counter before the election.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Gun Test magazine
« on: August 07, 2017, 03:00:44 AM »
Sorry about the link to a link here, but I thought this speaks to the way "Gun Test" does business.  And since I researched it on the interwebs, it has to be true!

R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 initial experience
« on: August 02, 2017, 07:59:52 AM »
Which ebay seller sold you the Gen 2 mags?  Were they new in the box or loose?

All the mags I see right now appear to be Gen 1.

I'd call Remington instead of email.

I've called customer service twice (not pistol performance issues) and got through right away, got directed immediately to the right call staff, and got the answers I needed.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Defensive pistol course
« on: July 27, 2017, 12:28:29 AM »
I'm not asking you to cut open a vein if you don't want to, but what aspects of the course did you find the most eye-opening and challenging?

R51 General Discussion / Suppressors
« on: July 25, 2017, 02:54:25 AM »
The movie "Back to the Future 2" promised we'd have hover boards in 2015.  That didn't happen.

Remington showed us an R51 with suppressor in 2014, but we didn't get that either.

Is there any speculation why?

I don't understand completely how semi-automatic pistols function, but my guess is that hanging a can off the front of the R51 degraded function/performance such that the idea was scrapped before or during retooling.

I'm just wondering if the original hand-built, pre-Shot Show 2014, Gen 1 R51s ever worked with a suppressor or if was it marketing hype from the start.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Got my new R51 - First impressions
« on: July 06, 2017, 12:36:43 AM »
As a side note, I called Remington to inquire about sight options other than the Trijicons and they said that Novak sights work. They said I can contact Novak.

You ever try to get a hold of Novak?  I see that the Novak website isn't specifically listing the Rem R51 in their Search by Handgun Model section.

Introductions section / Re: Hello everyone
« on: July 06, 2017, 12:27:43 AM »
Howdy.  Nice range report.

Introductions section / Re: DUTCH Van Atlanta
« on: July 06, 2017, 12:27:03 AM »
Welcome.  It sounds like you have been reading up on this forum.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Feeding Problems
« on: July 05, 2017, 01:23:06 AM »
My first range session was frustrating, with the main problem being the slide sticking open and not returning to battery without a little nudge.  I suspected the cause was the Winchester White Box 115 gr ammo, so in preparation for my next session, I purchased one box of everything I could find (no hollow points as yet).

I cleaned the pistol and greased the rails and Pedersen block and my sticky slide problem went away.  Well, there was one shot early in the session where the slide hung up for a second or two, but then snapped into battery on its own.  Everything was fine afterwards; even with WWB 115 gr ammo.  In fact it soon became apparent that it was going to shoot everything I fed it.

Over the next 200 rounds I had a couple of stove pipes and three or four FTFs, where once it was obvious the nose of the bullet got caught on the front of the mag.

There was one issue that bothers me.  On my first attempt to run 7+1, the magazine popped out after the first shot.  Every bad review I've ever read about the R51 came flooding back into my brain.  However, I was not able to reproduce the problem on the next 10 attempts.  Operator error?  Maybe.  I don't know.

R51 General Discussion / Re: Front Sight
« on: July 05, 2017, 12:56:44 AM »
I too reported my R51 shot two inches low in my initial range report.  The difference for me was that I was aware of the Military Center Hold (because of this forum), and I was still hitting 2 inches low.

However, my first range session was all about putting rounds down range and I wasn't shooting my best.  Next time out, before I got tired, I bore down to see what I could do accuracy-wise.  Sure-enough, I proved again that every bullet goes exactly where I aim it.  When I got off a good shot, and it felt like a good shot, the bullet was in or near the bull - with Military Center Hold.  When I didn't feel so good about my form, the hits went elsewhere, generally low.

In other posts I've confessed to not being that good of a shot, and this is still true.  R51 is a smaller hand gun than I am used to shooting, with a shorter sight radius, and a trigger that isn't as good as my full-sized Browning.  But this gun is so damn much fun to shoot that I'm looking forward to the challenge of using it to improve my form and accuracy.

R51 General Discussion / Re: First 300 Shots
« on: June 29, 2017, 06:23:04 AM »
Sorry for my ignorance, white lithium or some other grease?

R51 General Discussion / Re: First 300 Shots
« on: June 28, 2017, 11:43:22 PM »
Thanks, I'll throw a little extra oil on the rails and block, buy a bunch of different types of ammo, and give 'er heck again over the weekend.

R51 General Discussion / Re: First 300 Shots
« on: June 27, 2017, 12:14:24 AM »
Here is what I did:  lock the slide back, insert a full mag, grasp the back of the slide, pull back, release.

I don't recall exactly how far it went forward before it hot hung up, but an extra tap on the back of the slide got it to close.  My hope is that this will get smoother over time and cease to be a problem.  At this point in the break-in, would anyone recommend a little extra gun oil on the rails or Pedersen block?  Or would this just gum things up more as the inside gets dirty?

Yes, I've paid close attention to Kirk's comments and remembered to cover the bull with the front sight dot; still two inches low.  I will *never* rule out my shooter error when talking about the accuracy of my guns, and I admit there are times when I lapse into a bit of a finch, but I think it is hitting low.  I'll try it off the bench next time to see if my results change.

R51 General Discussion / First 300 Shots
« on: June 26, 2017, 01:18:25 AM »
First day at the range with my brand, new R1...

I didn't disassemble or clean the pistol before taking it to the range.  I didn't to anything else to prepare the pistol except to take a paint stir stick and depress each magazine spring 100 times.  (

The first 50 rounds of Remington FMJ ran pretty much flawlessly.  I didn't have the same luck with the next 250 rounds of Winchester White Box.  The slide wood get stuck back on virtually every magazine of WWB.  This occurred on the first first, second, and sometimes third and fourth round of each magazine.  The gun wasn't locked up as it only took a slight tap on the back of the slide with my thumb for the pistol to return to battery.  I also had a handful of stovepipes with the WWB.

I mostly inserted full magazines into the pistol with the slide locked back.  In using the slingshot technique to chamber a round, I needed to give the slide a little push to get it to close.  I also found that I was able to rack the slide on a full mag.  It wasn't completely smooth, but at least I was able to do it.

I was disappointed most to discover that mine shoots about 2" low at 12 yards (at least with WWB).

In cleaning the pistol, there must be a burr or something that is retarding the spring bushing because it was very difficult to raise it half way out of the slot.  And once I got the bushing in the correct position, it was very difficult to pull the barrel out of the slide.  If was very tight and it looked like the grip threads on the barrel were causing friction.  Blackie's spring clamp tip was most helpful in disassembly.  (

Reassembly was not quite a difficult, but the bushing gave me similar problems going back in.  Maybe I'll get the hang of it after a few more times.

I can't wait to try it with different ammo.  No more WWB for this R51.

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