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Introductions section / Re: Ronnie from Texas
« on: June 05, 2019, 12:59:48 AM »
I am 68.7 years old, Patron member of the NRA, and I own a R51. I am a part time gunsmith and I want to understand the issues that afflict this pistol. I have been shooting for 57 years, reloading for 40 years and gunsmithing for 37 years.
My friends call Ronnie. And I am a native of Texas.
Really not too many issues.

Of the top of my head, and in no particular order:
  • The chamber often has what appears to] be SAAMI minimum Leade/freebore.  I've had 2 different barrels and multiple issues with the bullet engaging the rifling, both commercial and reloads.
  • The trigger has some "cosmetic" side-to-side wobble.  It doesn't affect the pull, break, or seem to affect shooting, but a lot of people don't like it.
  • The Magazines have had several revisions and several identified issues, including follower legs which are long enough that they need slightly shortened in order to load a 7-round "full" mag into a gun with a cartridge already chambered (7+1) or the bullet hanging on the front lip of the mag as the cartridge is fed into the chamber.


Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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Introductions section / Re: Hello there.
« on: May 21, 2019, 12:55:06 AM »
Welcome.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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Other Guns - talk about them here / Re: R1 $75 Cash Rebate
« on: May 05, 2019, 11:52:22 PM »
Hello, all; Anyone interested in the Remington company needs to read the article "Gun Money", by Jesse Baron, in the 5/5/19 issue of the NY Times Magazine. The reality behind ownership and financing is at great odds with the corporate imaging presented by ad copywriters and gun owners' nostalgic impressions of firearms manufacturing. The information about the actual assembly line workers is particularly jarring. That one leveraging firm can buy up so many gun makers and then wring them as cash cows bodes ill for the industry. Thanks for reading, everyone.
This isn't exactly a new thing.  Heck, it's a major plot point to a 30-year old blockbuster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Woman

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Monarch 115gr ammo
« on: May 05, 2019, 11:50:06 PM »
Took my R51 and two boxes of Monarch 115 gr. ammunition to the range.  First round failed to chamber properly.  After seating it still didn't "feel" right.  So I dropped the mag and went to eject the round.  It wouldn't eject.  Slide was locked up.

I've seen this before with some of my hand-loaded HC and Coated HC bullets.  The ogive of the bullet was engaging past the leade of the chamber.  The bullet was engaging the rifling, basically.  Bad juju.  I braced the rear sight on the wood shooting table.  I love the rear sight on the R51.  When I finally managed to eject the round, I found that perfect scuff mark ring on the ogive.  I fed a box of the Moarch to my Sub 2000, which has a looser chamber and is blow-back anyway.  I pulled out some of the last remaining hand-loaded bullets I have that don't cause chamber problems.  The were from SNS Casting, but they've discontinued that mold and started something else.  While they don't over-pressure the gun, the loaded cartridges don't feed well.

Most of the time, factory loaded cartridges are fine but I have to be super careful and "pre-test" them before I run them. 

I know that having a SAMMI minimum spec chamber theoretically makes the gun more accurate but it truly is one of the most frustrating things about this gun. 

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Officially Discontinued
« on: March 27, 2019, 11:54:00 PM »
Their 1911-types seem really nice
Their 1911R1 guns in .45ACP are not +P rated, unlike even the 1911's from the Philippines.  This is a frustration for me because I'd like to be able to shoot .450 SMC (roughly 10mm ballistics from a .45 +P gun) or drop in a .460 Rowland conversion (which also requires a +P rated gun).  Even RIA can do this but the high quality, American made, Remington 1911's can't?  <sigh>

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: R51 after action report.
« on: March 12, 2019, 04:32:26 AM »
I'm so used to the bullseye 6 o'clock sight picture that I forgot about the combat hold.
Me too.  When I got my Remington 1911R1, "for some strange reason" it was hitting low.  ;)  So I got an adjustable rear sight (wrong cut - doesn't fit my slide) and got a hold of a gunsmith who, coincidentally, is also a Training Counselor.  He asked me how I was sighting it.  When I told him traditional bullseye, he reminded me.  <forehead slap>  :D

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: R51 after action report.
« on: March 11, 2019, 11:30:20 PM »
Update.  Tried every commonly available 115gr load and they all hit low. Front sight is stuck fast, so off to Remington later today.
Again, everything hits low because Remington didn't set it up with Bullseye sight alignment.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: My R51 is back!!
« on: March 11, 2019, 11:08:26 PM »
No, I did not send it back in the original box.  I had a used USPS Priority Mail box that I sent it in. They sent the pistol back in a R51 box with the serial number labels removed.  Unless they have changed their process, they will not return the box you send it in. I suggest you use another box and keep your original box.
Keeping the original box, included paperwork & manuals, and original purchase receipt & paperwork, will increase the value of the firearm.  ...in 25 to 50 years.  You know.  For your grand children.  ;)

Original boxes and paperwork DO, in fact, increase the value for collectors.  Particularly for firearms which are not as common.  Not too long ago I traded off a Russian IJ70 18-AH Makarov and got premium value because I still had the box, paperwork, manual, receipt, etc.  New, it was like a $250 gun (25 years ago).  I traded it for a good condition H&K which I then traded (+ a little $$) for a like-new-in-box Gen 5 G19 with radioactive sights.  So, basically, I added around $200-ish to the value of the gun just because I had the box and was willing to do some trades.

So, yeah.  Keep the box.  Unless you don't have an attic you want to junk up or unless your SO tell you to throw that useless cardboard away.  :D

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Is Remington still making R51's?
« on: March 11, 2019, 10:57:09 PM »
Frankly, I'm a little surprised that Remington (or anyone, really) has a downloadable PDF catalog.  But, strangely, most firearms manufactures still seem to.  <shrug>

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Is Remington still making R51's?
« on: February 28, 2019, 12:59:23 AM »
My thought is that if Remington redesigned the magazines, then that would take care of 99.9% of any existing issues with the R51.
99.9% of feeding issues in semi-auto handguns are related the the magazine.

The 1911 is a 110 year old design so you'd think that they'd have all the mag issues sorted out by now and NO ONE would make a bad or unreliable mag.  But if you go to a 1911 forum and report that you're getting feeding issues, the first things they're going to recommend are magazine related.  Did you try a different mag?  Did you dump the "cheap garbage mags" and buy some "quality mags" (I think Chip McCormick mags are usually recommended).

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Good deals
« on: February 22, 2019, 03:03:42 AM »
Did Remington announce an end to production???
Not last I heard.  But the R51 is noticeably absent from the 2019 PDF catalog available on their website.  This has lead to speculation that it is being discontinued.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: R51 after action report.
« on: February 06, 2019, 12:38:56 AM »
Re: combat sighting.  That DOES seem to be the case with this gun. As an old Service Rifle shooter, 6:00 is a very difficult habit to break. Combat sighting isn't conducive to best accuracy either.
I had the same problem.  Hard habit to break.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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General Discussion / Re: R51 after action report.
« on: February 04, 2019, 12:26:06 AM »
2) Very accurate too. Hits VERY low with every 115gr load I have tried, though.  Reminds me of my old Arcus HP close in that regard. Looked round the site, and it may be the sights are designed for combat sight picture; place center dot (not top edge of the sight) where you want the bullet to go. Developing story.
Remington pistols seem to come from the factory with a Combat Center Hold sight alignment.



Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: Trigger work
« on: January 22, 2019, 06:48:01 AM »
I'll be releasing a metal trigger soon, should help out a bit. Disassembly is easy, just need to drift out a couple of pins.
Youtube vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwOgYMJtFnk

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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R51 General Discussion / Re: R51 Threaded Barrels Available!
« on: January 22, 2019, 03:09:40 AM »
Just an FYI, I'm down to our last 5. Probably will be a little while before the next run, metal anti-wobble triggers are the next item to run  8)
I'll put aside a little money to save for it.  :)

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

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