Received a reply from Remington, no more R-51 production.
Well we now all own collectors pieces. Might just be worth something in 50 years or so. Its a shame but I doubt they could make any money with the guns retailing for $250.
Keep this in mind when reading gun reviews, most are written by lets say the uninformed. People who never touched a 51 killed it with their stupid comments.
Sound like Remington is doing the same as General Motors did a few years ago with their ignition switch
instead of putting a $1.00 shaft in it they put in a ten cent part that broke and cost them millions.
Remington put in a cheap trigger, cheap magazines and ruined their reputation and lost millions. How
could they have been so stupid. The gun is different and could have been a sensation except for the
decisions made by management. Sounds like we won't be hearing from Remington again unless they
get someone to run it, that has some brains.
fknipfer1
What they need to do is to start producing the R9, like they did the RM380. Rohrbaugh already did the hard work on a great design. I bet they'd sell more than all their handguns combined.
The rm380 is already mostly set up to shoot 9mm anyway. It could easily replace the r51. Wouldn't even need a different mag. Just a different barrel and spring.
Checked with my Remington source this morning. Production suspended =/= production discontinued. That said, Big Green has lost their shirt, socks and drawers in this deal. Wouldn't be surprising if it wasn't in the 2020 lineup.
Here's the reply from Remington when I asked them about producing the R9. It's no wonder they have been sucking hind-tit in the handgun arena. They should start reading and try to understand what the gun community wants, and smaller compact 9's is where it's at.
"Good afternoon sir,
Thank you for visiting Remington Country! We certainly appreciate you taking the time to write in with your question. At this time Remington has no plans to produce the Rohrbaugh R9. We appreciate your interest in our products. Thank you and have a great day."
I think they've been too bitten by this whole R51 episode to take up a new pistol at this point. Their 1911-types seem really nice, but there's so darn many new 9mm carry guns out there, that their opportunity has passed. We should all keep checking in on this site to keep up on what all of us owners discover in future.
Quote from: springfield art on March 27, 2019, 03:16:50 PMTheir 1911-types seem really nice
Their 1911R1 guns in .45ACP are not +P rated, unlike even the 1911's from the Philippines. This is a frustration for me because I'd like to be able to shoot .450 SMC (roughly 10mm ballistics from a .45 +P gun) or drop in a .460 Rowland conversion (which also requires a +P rated gun). Even RIA can do this but the high quality, American made, Remington 1911's can't? <sigh>
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Since the R51 is not a high volume seller, production runs only take a few months. There would be no reason to keep it in production 12 month per year.
I was at my local RK store yesterday picking up farm supplies and they no longer have R51's in the display case.
Didn't get to talk to any sales guys they were too busy.
I just checked there website and they have them listed with CT for $399.00 but it says "factory ship" whatever that means.
Also I just bought another Desantis mini scabbard at holsters unlimited for $24.20 if anyone is interested. Now they have 4 left.
http://www.gunholstersunlimited.com/advancedsearch/result/?q=019BA1AZ0
Quote from: waltsblues on April 07, 2019, 07:56:25 AM
I was at my local RK store yesterday picking up farm supplies and they no longer have R51's in the display case.
Didn't get to talk to any sales guys they were too busy.
I just checked there website and they have them listed with CT for $399.00 but it says "factory ship" whatever that means.
Also I just bought another Desantis mini scabbard at holsters unlimited for $24.20 if anyone is interested. Now they have 4 left.
http://www.gunholstersunlimited.com/advancedsearch/result/?q=019BA1AZ0
A fair guess is they will order you one upon request.
I think the market is moving on to the new Mossberg carry 9. It's gotten rave reviews in all the publications.
The new Beretta APX Carry is getting some good reviews.
Also, the Naroh N1 looks interesting.
I went to the range today. My R51 functioned flawlessly and out performed a SIG P320. I think Remington is making a huge mistake pulling the plug on this fine firearm.
I completely agree, Swschu.
I like to think that even if Remington discontinues production, they can always start producing the R51 again at a later date. I'm thinking that a lot will depend on Remington's financial health over the next few years. At Shot show this year, it seemed like Remington is focusing on their hunting rifles and shotguns rather than self defense products. I can certainly understand that strategy. The hunting market is Remington's identity and if they lose that, then Remington as we know it will cease to exist.
Gosh, I don't think Rem will ever resurrect this pistol. They took such a bath on it already, and the demand is no doubt down due to bad press earlier; already newer items are entering the market, like the new Mossberg carry pistol. Just my opinion; I think Rem is going to "go forward" and leave the R51 behind.
I will soon have the name and either mailing address, email address or both of who we can write to about getting them to not discontinue the R-51. We need a huge effort. I have seen some people on here make comments about how to make it better. I would like to kick off this campaign to get them to maybe make a few changes and re-introduce the pistol. I really believe that Remington had something with this pistol. We need to get support from some of the YouTube Gun Community. I really want them to continue this pistol. I think the concept of the fixed barrel and low bore axis is great especially for newer shooters. Just my thoughts. Is there anyone in this community that feels like I do?
Hello, GLBourbon and all; I realize the NY Times is basically anti-gun, but everyone needs to read the article in the 5/5/19 issue of the NY Times Magazine entitled "Gun Money" by Jesse Baron. The financial strains inflicted upon the company by their corporate owners, who also own several other gun companies, is surprising. The reality behind advertising images, and our sometimes naïve impressions of companies' management is an eye-opener. There's simply no way they are going to bring back a problematic product. Thanks, all, for reading.
I sent Remington an email a few weeks ago expressing support for further development of the R51. I received a prompt reply and the representative said that he liked the R51 for the same reasons but was unsure whether production would be continued or not.
I sent an email to info@remington.com and also sent one to Mike Keeney who is Director of Handgun Development. At least he was at one time and I didn't get an invalid email auto response. I also asked them to continue with the development of this pistol. They should also look at this Pedersen design in some of their other pistols, like the RP9 or RP45. It is a design no one else has and they own it. The could have some extremely accurate pistols. I would also look at making their pistols, some of the models with metal (aluminum) frames. Using this Pedersen design, if they can work out the kinks with the R-51, they would have something that sets them apart from all the other pistol makers. Just my thoughts.
I admire people who actually write the companies. For every person who contacts a corporation, there's a thousand who don't care to write or call. Congratulations!
I have seen the postings in this thread talking about the R51 being discontinued and that it isn't on Remington's website any longer. I don't know if Remington has really discontinued production permanently or not. I will say that I went to their website this morning and the firearm is still available for sale. They want more than $250 for it and that seems reasonable to me as it is probably a relatively modestly produced firearm. They asking about what Ruger is asking for an LCR (Approximately$450). I hope they do continue to produce the R51 as I am hoping to purchase one in the near future.
My *GUESS* is its gone and not coming back. There are several retailers blowing them out at around $200 or a bit more. I paid $199 for mine. I don't think they'd be selling them at Hi-Point prices unless they indeed have been discontinued. *shrug*
Zorba, you are probably correct. I chatted with someone off of their website who said that production has been discontinued for this year. So I asked them how accurate the statement of them not producing them any more this year due to inventory being good and the person checked their inventory but did not confirm my statement. When I asked them about being concerned about service and parts, that person told me that parts and service would be available for a while. That does indeed sound like the pistol is finished. That is a pity as it is a very attractive design.
"Stop sending up them negative waves Moriarty! Think that they will be there, and they will be baby."
-Oddball
I wish they were coming back.....but this should be a lesson forevermore on why to never release a product unless it is ready for prime time.