visited two local gun shops today to get pricing; one said his distributor had 100 guns available, and the other said his distributor had "red lined" them, meaning they were no longer available. He didn't know if that simply meant they were not being stocked by that distributor, or if Remington had stopped making them. I doubt it was the latter, but who knows as there seems to be a lot of unsold ones on dealer shelves.
It's still on Remington's website, they have links to 3 different "vendors" there, and Bud's still lists them as in-stock.
https://www.remington.com/handguns/remington-r51/remington-r51
Might be that Remington has something planned for SHOT. <shrug>
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Remington is still showing the pistol in their catalog. I haven't heard any industry news reporting that they have or are going to quit making them anytime soon. I am hoping that they will start to gain a little bit more of a following and hopefully be successful.
Mine is still running flawless no matter the ammo. I believe there is no reason sales should not take off at its price point now. The one thing that holds it back is Military's YouTube review when he purposely assembled it wrong and fired several rounds. It gives a false impression. And as far as assembly. This thing is ridiculously easy. And to those having issues. Try wearing mechanics gloves to hold the grooves on the barrel. But good Lord unless you have severe arthritis there is no excuse. My wife can disassemble and reassemble for Gods sake, lol. This is a very cool pistol that's far out of the norm and that's a good thing!
I kind of doubt that Remington is still cranking these out at the factory. Any time a product has had the bad publicity this one has, there can't be much demand for it. Mine works fine. A local high volume range/store that is a big Remington dealer doesn't show it at all anymore; I think they got spooked off of it. The company wouldn't want to announce any termination as long as many are sitting on the shelves. Just my guess, I've no 'inside' information, either. Have a great 2018, all! :D
I'm afraid you are right Springfield, but if I can find a new one priced right, I'll buy it.
Well it looks as though the R51 ship has sailed. I had a friend of mine inquire about threaded barrels at the SHOT Show and was told that the R51 had been discontinued. It's not in the 2019 catalog either. The last nail in the coffin was when I was searching for cheap R51's on Gunbroker, I ran across a dealer who has over 6000 of them in on hand, which pretty well indicates that he bought Remington's entire stock. The good thing is he's selling them for $227 each!!!!! Here's a link: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/797745264
I'm so pissed at Remington for screwing this up. If they wouldn't have jumped the gun to hurry production for SHOT 2014 this fine firearm would still be in production with maybe a 45 cal version on the horizon. But Nooooooooooo, they had to F*ck it up.
BTW I've got one of DangerCo's threaded barrels and my R51 suppresses quite nicely in deed!
That's really unfortunate. I thought a gen 3 could really tie up some loose ends in the design. What does that mean for warranty support?
Well, i guess its time to start waiting for the big liquidation clearance. When I start seeing these going for $100-150, ill buy a ton of them.
Im guessing when there is an official announcement that it's being discontinued, this will confirm everyone's bias that these were junk. I would imagine thats when the firesale will start.
Personally, id ditch every other handgun i own in favor of these.
Part of my motivation for my recent purchase of one, in Dec 2019, was that I had a feeling that they would be discontinued soon. The low price, drop in advertising, and yes, the continual internet bashing, were the indicators to me.
Quote from: mr220v on February 03, 2019, 10:06:22 AM
Well, i guess its time to start waiting for the big liquidation clearance. When I start seeing these going for $100-150, ill buy a ton of them.
Im guessing when there is an official announcement that it's being discontinued, this will confirm everyone's bias that these were junk. I would imagine thats when the firesale will start.
Personally, id ditch every other handgun i own in favor of these.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Dito. My strategy exactly.
Went to Rural King today, and the R51 is back to $200. "Clearance" at least there seems to be a synonym for "sale."
I received a reply this morning from Remington to the effect that the R51 is not currently in production.
A representative from Remington suggested that the R51 might only be temporarily out of production, since production of all their firearms is sporadic. The last production run of R51s was in November. I am trying to get a more definitive answer, and when I do, I will post it here.
Please do. I hope this is only temporary. I think that even after a terribly rocky start, the R51s popularity may actually be slowly on the rise. It would be a shame to kill it now.
I also emailed Remington regarding the status of the R51. The reply was that at this time there has been no decision whether it will be discontinued or not. I mentioned that from people I know of who actually own one, the feedback is very positive and that the design is truly unique in the current sea of plastec striker fired 9mm single stacks.
I received the following reply after asking if their were any plans for producing the R51 in the future ...
They'll replace it with a scaled down single stack rp9 that uses r51 magazines. It will sell and work much better.
My thought is that if Remington redesigned the magazines, then that would take care of 99.9% of any existing issues with the R51.
Quote from: Zenshot on February 28, 2019, 06:59:18 AM
My thought is that if Remington redesigned the magazines, then that would take care of 99.9% of any existing issues with the R51.
99.9% of feeding issues in semi-auto handguns are related the the magazine.
The 1911 is a 110 year old design so you'd think that they'd have all the mag issues sorted out by now and NO ONE would make a bad or unreliable mag. But if you go to a 1911 forum and report that you're getting feeding issues, the first things they're going to recommend are magazine related. Did you try a different mag? Did you dump the "cheap garbage mags" and buy some "quality mags" (I think Chip McCormick mags are usually recommended).
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Unfortunately, I think the fact that it's not in the 2019 Remington PDF catalog tells us it's over.
If it was a manufacturing hiatus to allow sales to catch up it would still be listed in the catalog.
Quote from: Zenshot on February 28, 2019, 06:59:18 AM
My thought is that if Remington redesigned the magazines, then that would take care of 99.9% of any existing issues with the R51.
This would definitely be a viable fix for all the issues we've been hearing about with the R51. Remington should have contracted their magazine production to whoever produces mags for S&W.
Quote from: 470Evans on February 28, 2019, 12:28:22 PM
Unfortunately, I think the fact that it's not in the 2019 Remington PDF catalog tells us it's over.
If it was a manufacturing hiatus to allow sales to catch up it would still be listed in the catalog.
They are still listed on the website though! Probably matters more than the catalog. ;D I bet more people go to a website for information on a product than a paper catalog..
Frankly, I'm a little surprised that Remington (or anyone, really) has a downloadable PDF catalog. But, strangely, most firearms manufactures still seem to. <shrug>
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
The thing that strikes me about the prospect of the R51 being discontinued is the potential for it to become a "collector's item" despite its tumultuous production run. In fact, that might even enhance its collectability. Kind of like the "Edsel" of firearms.
Howard
I see in today's news that Remington's Ilion and Huntsville facilities are laying off 200 people. Production is definitely slowing down if that's the case...
Might be time to get ready for that big clearance sale then.
Email Remington and tell them how much you like your R51 and are looking forward to the continued development of the design. Give them some encouragement from those of us who actually own the R51 and how it's a superior platform for concealed carry compared to the generic plastic Glock knock offs.
What is the best email?
I can say that i like it, but im not sure that my gun tastes are mainstream.
That and I suspect that the r51 is a good bit more expensive to produce vs plastic framed guns. This is probably the reason why we have seen so many QC issues. At $200, Remington is struggling to break even. Poor QC leads to bad reviews leads to even worse QC leads to more bad reviews. Kind of a death spiral that can only be stopped by dumping even more money into the project. Money they dont have. Im sure the new management from Taurus is looking at the R51 and wondering why it's still around. Just a high cost of production offering that hasn't been able to justify itself.
The good news is that current r51s are running well. Sootch gave some lukewarm positive reviews, maybe to be followed up by some glowing reviews later. If the r51 can get past the youtube trolls, maybe it can start to sell.
Hello,
Everyone; We've seen on the news that Remington is now going to be sued by the Sandy Hook activists for the Company's 'advertising focus'. This was reported 3/14/19 nationally. So the company will be fighting off expensive lawsuits; no matter which side wins, Remington will be in a deep ditch. The complaint seems to be about the way the advertising read for the AR type rifles. This has made a rift in the immunity clause the firearms companies had. Keep yourselves informed.