I have put on 1229 rounds on my Huntsville. This is the breakdown.
I have 4 mags of which #1 and #2 were modified with shorter follower legs early on.
Mag 1 was a bugger.....with plenty of FTFs before the mod.
Only 70 rounds have been fired with mags 3 & 4, total
Of the 1229 rounds, 96% were 115gr commercial reloads. The rest were 124gr hp and 147 silver tips.
I cleaned the weapon after every trip to the range.
I can field strip and reassemble this unit in less than 1 minute total...(if the barrel lines up the first time!!!!!!)
Overall FTF rate.....................0.9%
FTF rate after Mag 1 was modified................0.33%
The frame shows normal wear. However my mag release pin is not doing what it should.
Otherwise I love this pistol.....and again I call BS on all the crap that came before.
Summary....THE MAGS SUCK!
Happy New Year Y'all.
Rocky,
Totally agree with you. The mags do suck! >:( Glad everything on yours has worked out well for you. How long have you had yours? You got 1229 rounds through her pretty quick. I barely made three hundred, and I have had mine for a little over a month! LOL! Now if we can just get that mag release pin straightened out.
I have had the Huntsville for about a month....and the problems that everyone has had with the Gen 2 versions were just too much for me to swallow without seeing for myself. I wanted to recreate all of these issues but a little TLC did the job (or put it in perspective) and as such made whiners and pu$$ys out of most. These so called experts have their heads up their rear ends. Take the failures that I had had on BOTH of my R51's...
I had 13 FTF in 1328 rounds. (or 190 mags)..(another 100 rds today)..and of the 11 FTF's of which I tracked which mag and which round (1 through 7).......7 were on the first round. That is significant. All of them were in the first 2 rounds of the mag. That is more significant.
Nine of 13 were in 1 mag. That is significant.
97% of all rounds were 115gr commercial reloads....(light loads)....that is significant.
If it were a pistol function problem FTF or other matters would be all over the place. They are not!!!!
The range is just around the corner from my house...easy peasy to show up daily.
Oh...and with a bit of practice field stripping and reassembly can be done in short order....like a 1911....but I would not want to do it under fire....hahah
I love shooting holes in an EXPERT's theory, don't you??
Regards
Yep, the more data we see, the more obvious it becomes where the problem lies and that we're on the right track to a permanent fix.
I'm just scratching my head as to why Big Green didn't address the mag issues further before the re-release. I have no doubt they had the same issues that we're reading about on this forum. They said before the gen-2 release, during pre-production, that they fired 1.3 million rounds during testing. They also selected 10 guns per day during production and fired 500-1000 rounds through them.
Mike Keeney, the director of Remington's handgun division, told Guntalk's Tom Gresham that magazines are the toughest part of the design and they can make or break that design. So why didn't they practice what they preach? We'll probably never know.
Quote from: Rocky150 on January 03, 2018, 08:49:05 PM
I love shooting holes in an EXPERT's theory, don't you??
Regards
Maybe not an "expert's" theory. Just a bunch of Rhode's Scholars, who if we harnessed the energy from their brains to make a hydrogen bomb, there wouldn't be enough energy there to blow their nose!
Quote from: funflyer on January 04, 2018, 11:03:22 AM
Yep, the more data we see, the more obvious it becomes where the problem lies and that we're on the right track to a permanent fix.
I'm just scratching my head as to why Big Green didn't address the mag issues further before the re-release. I have no doubt they had the same issues that we're reading about on this forum. They said before the gen-2 release, during pre-production, that they fired 1.3 million rounds during testing. They also selected 10 guns per day during production and fired 500-1000 rounds through them.
Mike Keeney, the director of Remington's handgun division, told Guntalk's Tom Gresham that magazines are the toughest part of the design and they can make or break that design. So why didn't they practice what they preach? We'll probably never know.
I'm not necessarily accusing Remington of something sinister, but selecting 10 guns at random per day doesn't mean that they selected random magazines as well. What if by intention or accident they did their testing with known good magazines?
Also, in terms of magazine design tweaking... Yes, somewhere during the 1.3 million rounds of testing they probably identified a magazine problem. And I'll be their engineers probably want to fix the problem. But with all of Remington's financial problems, and noting all of the other new products Remington has launched since the re-release of the R51, I can easily imagine that management directed engineering to work on tasks that had a bigger impact on the bottom line.