Just found something on my R51 that may make yall's experience of field stripping your R51 easier. I found that on my pistol, if you grasp the front of the slide and GENTLY and SLOWLY move it to the rear, the slide locks itself exactly in the position for it to be taken down. Again, move the slide to the rear slowly so you can feel it. Right when the take down notch in the slide comes directly over the front of the slide lock lever, it should latch open (not securely, but it will stop), (or at least it does on mine). I have found this makes it a lot easier, as I only have to grasp the barrel and push the lever out with my other hand instead of struggling to hold the slide with one hand. Not sure if this is something peculiar to my pistol, or if other's pistols will do the same thing. I hope I found a solution to make life easy. If not let me know. Hope this helps!
Sean
Quote from: R51Fan2017 on November 23, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
Just found something on my R51 that may make yall's experience of field stripping your R51 easier. I found that on my pistol, if you grasp the front of the slide and GENTLY and SLOWLY move it to the rear, the slide locks itself exactly in the position for it to be taken down. Again, move the slide to the rear slowly so you can feel it. Right when the take down notch in the slide comes directly over the front of the slide lock lever, it should latch open (not securely, but it will stop), (or at least it does on mine). I have found this makes it a lot easier, as I only have to grasp the barrel and push the lever out with my other hand instead of struggling to hold the slide with one hand. Not sure if this is something peculiar to my pistol, or if other's pistols will do the same thing. I hope I found a solution to make life easy. If not let me know. Hope this helps!
Sean
R51Fan,
Nice try, but my pistol does not do that. Gawd, I wish it did. Appreciate the attempt.
Blacike
Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on November 23, 2017, 10:54:56 PM
Quote from: R51Fan2017 on November 23, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
R51Fan,
Nice try, but my pistol does not do that. Gawd, I wish it did. Appreciate the attempt.
Blacike
Dang! Sorry about that! Will post a picture of how it locks itself back today, for all to see. Just so folks don't think I'm making something up. Wish it would have worked for you.
My humblest apologies. The hammer must NOT BE COCKED before attempting this! If it is cocked, it certainly will not work.
This is what the slide looks like when it latches itself in the take down position
https://i.imgur.com/WPQScsf.jpg
Quote from: R51Fan2017 on November 24, 2017, 10:36:23 AM
This is what the slide looks like when it latches itself in the take down position
https://i.imgur.com/WPQScsf.jpg
R51Fan,
I wonder if Remington knows this? It is certainly not in the manual.
I will try it with mine tonight.
Blackie
Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on November 24, 2017, 12:50:28 PM
R51Fan,
I wonder if Remington knows this? It is certainly not in the manual.
I will try it with mine tonight.
Blackie
If Remington knew about it I wonder why they didn't tell anyone. I have a Huntsville gun, not a Charlottesville (or a re-worked) gun. Does anyone else out there have a Huntsville frame pistol that does the same thing? Just trying to determine if this is has any relation to new production Gen 2 guns, not re-worked Gen 1 guns or if mine is just doing crazy things. More posts from other memebers would be greatly appreciated!n :)
Quote from: R51Fan2017 on November 24, 2017, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on November 24, 2017, 12:50:28 PM
R51Fan,
I wonder if Remington knows this? It is certainly not in the manual.
I will try it with mine tonight.
Blackie
If Remington knew about it I wonder why they didn't tell anyone. I have a Huntsville gun, not a Charlottesville (or a re-worked) gun. Does anyone else out there have a Huntsville frame pistol that does the same thing? Just trying to determine if this is has any relation to new production Gen 2 guns, not re-worked Gen 1 guns or if mine is just doing crazy things. More posts from other memebers would be greatly appreciated!n :)
R51Fan,
I forgot to mention, my R51 will lock up with the hammer down. And it was made in the "Queen City".
Blackie
Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on November 24, 2017, 04:47:22 PM
R51Fan,
I forgot to mention, my R51 will lock up with the hammer down. And it was made in the "Queen City".
Blackie
So it does work for you??? That's great!! Hope that helps you!
R51Fan... works as you described with my Charlotte frame Gen2. Pull pin then continue moving slide aft to cock hammer. Hold barrel with fingers or clamp. Then move slide foward to remove as usual... Interesting find!... Thx Joe
Tried mine today and it will lock close to the TD position but it requires a whisker more aft movement for the slide stop pin to come out.
Gen 2 from Charlotte tried this weekend and worked. Nice find!
Glad this is working for everyone! Wonder why Remington didn't put this in the manual??
Quote from: R51Fan2017 on November 23, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
Just found something on my R51 that may make yall's experience of field stripping your R51 easier. I found that on my pistol, if you grasp the front of the slide and GENTLY and SLOWLY move it to the rear, the slide locks itself exactly in the position for it to be taken down. Again, move the slide to the rear slowly so you can feel it. Right when the take down notch in the slide comes directly over the front of the slide lock lever, it should latch open (not securely, but it will stop), (or at least it does on mine). I have found this makes it a lot easier, as I only have to grasp the barrel and push the lever out with my other hand instead of struggling to hold the slide with one hand. Not sure if this is something peculiar to my pistol, or if other's pistols will do the same thing. I hope I found a solution to make life easy. If not let me know. Hope this helps!
Sean
Sean,
the hammer needs to be down!
Blackie
Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on December 18, 2017, 11:20:20 AM
Sean,
the hammer needs to be down!
Blackie
That's right Blackie. Read my other post. I think its post number 4 in this thread. I realized it after I already posted. Instead of editing an existing post, I just wrote a new one. Thanks though! Sometimes I miss stuff!
Question: "So the hamer needs to be down"!
Am I getting this straight, we have another gun that "has to have the trigger pulled" before starting the take down????
Quote from: Chokejug on December 25, 2017, 09:57:56 PM
Question: "So the hamer needs to be down"!
Am I getting this straight, we have another gun that "has to have the trigger pulled" before starting the take down????
Yup. Fraid so.
Quote from: Chokejug on December 25, 2017, 09:57:56 PM
Question: "So the hamer needs to be down"!
Am I getting this straight, we have another gun that "has to have the trigger pulled" before starting the take down????
No. Only if you want to try to use this particular "life hack" takedown technique. To follow the normal takedown technique as described by Remington the hammer does not have to be down and you do not have to pull the trigger before disassembly.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
I pull the slide off with the gun upside down. I pull the slide back further to grab the serrations and to seat the block into the slide so that when I pull it off, the block doesn't obstruct.
Same thing when the slide goes back on. Block has to stay clear of the rails and the barrel centered. You also have to hold the extractor up.
With practice, I have disassembly down to the time it takes me to strip a 1911. Slower than my cz75, but not bad.
I'll say it once again! Great find. Just did it on my early NC, gen2.
I'm glad that I made some folks lives a little easier! Why Remington didn't print this in their manual I will never know.
Quote from: R51Fan2017 on January 23, 2018, 01:46:37 PM
I'm glad that I made some folks lives a little easier! Why Remington didn't print this in their manual I will never know.
When the slide locks in the TD position, or close but not close enough for some of us, it's the hammer block that's actually locking into the hammer. For Remington to print it in the manual means they all better work or they'll be some shit-hemorrhages from many owners resulting in more returns to the mother-ship than they could handle.
My Huntsville R51does exactly what you described.