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New and Improved (?) mags

Started by 1911SHOOTER, October 23, 2017, 11:48:11 AM

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1911SHOOTER

     Just received my new and improved mags from Big Green.   Visually, no difference
in the ones just received and the old ones.   only difference is the stock numbers.
     Look and load the same.  Unloading, a different story.   Trying to unload the mags
the nose of the bullets catch on the little bent portion of the mag. 
     I am going to the range today and will give these
mags a workout with several  different brands of ammo.
Wish me luck.
Blackie   
So many guns, so little time!

1911SHOOTER

#1
Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on October 23, 2017, 11:48:11 AM
     Just received my new and improved mags from Big Green.   Visually, no difference
in the ones just received and the old ones.   only difference is the stock numbers.
     Look and load the same.  Unloading, a different story.   Trying to unload the mags
the nose of the bullets catch on the little bent portion of the mag. 
     I am going to the range today and will give these
mags a workout with several  different brands of ammo.
Wish me luck.
Blackie

Just got back from the range.
     Tried both new mags with a variety of ammo.  Hollow point, FMJ and Win USA Forged (steel).
Had one nose dive, other than that, all went well.  Jury is still out.
I engraved numbers  on the mags with a dremel.   1 thru 5.   #5 had 1 nose dive.

Bkacie
So many guns, so little time!

SCurmudgeon

Is there a visual difference in the "little bent portion" or can you feel a difference with your fingers?

1911SHOOTER

#3
Quote from: SCurmudgeon on October 23, 2017, 03:56:14 PM
Is there a visual difference in the "little bent portion" or can you feel a difference with your fingers?

Scurmudgeon,
     No, There is not.  I think that Rem just changed the part number.  I have found out that if the mag spring is in backwards,
that it will decrease the capacity of the mag by one..
     All five mags will at times, when removing the ammo from the mags, by hand, have one nose dive,  hitting the "little bent portion".
These are the most ornery mags I have ever seen.   However,   Like I said after 100 rounds each, the mags performed
fairly well, with only one nose dive on #5 mag.    It has helped to number the mags.    I take notes as to which
mag does what.    The jury is still out.  But mags #1, #2 and #3 are "carry worthy".   Just #4 and #5 are suspect, and "range worthy" .
Blackie   
So many guns, so little time!

lklawson

Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on October 23, 2017, 04:59:27 PMHowever,   Like I said after 100 rounds each, the mags performed
fairly well
Remington says that the mags have a breakin period.  I forget how many loadings but I think it was about 3-5 full mags through each.

Somewhere in this vid, ims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxyYcPOswW0

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

SCurmudgeon

Quote from: lklawson on October 24, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
Remington says that the mags have a breakin period.  I forget how many loadings but I think it was about 3-5 full mags through each.

Somewhere in this vid, ims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxyYcPOswW0

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Thanks for finding and posting this video.  I remember watching it when it came out, but then had trouble finding it again.  The on-camera FTF occurs at 10:30.  Shooter had 3 FTFs is just under two hundred rounds with +P ammo loaded into new mags.  This is where GunTalk/Remington plant the suggestion that mags need a several cycles to break them in.

It is interesting that Remington's test protocol uses +P ammo.

lklawson

Quote from: SCurmudgeon on October 25, 2017, 07:57:17 AM
Quote from: lklawson on October 24, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
Remington says that the mags have a breakin period.  I forget how many loadings but I think it was about 3-5 full mags through each.

Somewhere in this vid, ims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxyYcPOswW0

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Thanks for finding and posting this video.  I remember watching it when it came out, but then had trouble finding it again.  The on-camera FTF occurs at 10:30.  Shooter had 3 FTFs is just under two hundred rounds with +P ammo loaded into new mags.  This is where GunTalk/Remington plant the suggestion that mags need a several cycles to break them in.

It is interesting that Remington's test protocol uses +P ammo.
It is also my experience that any new magazine for any gun needs a break in.  My preferred break-in protocol is to use a couple of wooden dowel rods to manually cycle the follower down to full compression 100 times.  I'll also visually inspect the top of the mag, the lips/ears/front for sharp edges and burrs which I will lightly sand if found.  Mags also need light lube.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Indyman

#7
New spring is the same diameter as the old spring (.042"), but has an extra coil. Also note the difference in the bottom coil - a slightly longer finish to the coil.

Indyman

The top of the magazine that holds the casing is narrower, and appears to have less "pinch" at the front.

Indyman

The top of the magazine appears narrower and straighter.

DUTCH Van Atlanta

It would be helpful to indicate which is new and which is old in the photos.
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Indyman

In the photo of the magazines side by side, the new magazine is on the right.

1911SHOOTER

Yeah, but how about performance data?   Mine appear to be "Breaking in" well.
Blackie
So many guns, so little time!

Indyman

I just received my magazine yesterday, so I'll be going to the range next week.

1911SHOOTER

Quote from: Indyman on October 28, 2017, 11:01:17 AM
I just received my magazine yesterday, so I'll be going to the range next week.


Indy,
     Did Remington send you one mag or two?
Blackie
So many guns, so little time!