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Serpa Blackhawk Concealment holster.

Started by 1911SHOOTER, April 06, 2017, 02:27:34 PM

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1911SHOOTER

     Hey gang,
This just came up on the Ruger forum.   Just passing it along, for what it is worth.
I will say, I had one, and it ruined the finish on my 1911.
Blackie

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/04/06/serpa-sucks-thats-just-say/
So many guns, so little time!

lklawson

Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on April 06, 2017, 02:27:34 PM
     Hey gang,
This just came up on the Ruger forum.   Just passing it along, for what it is worth.
I will say, I had one, and it ruined the finish on my 1911.
Blackie

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/04/06/serpa-sucks-thats-just-say/
This has been getting a HUGE amount of play in the pro-firearms community lately.  I have heard many and varied professional firearms instructors have been saying exactly this, quite vocally, in the last few months.  It does all revolve around the way the trigger finger can slip straight to the trigger during draw.  Some of the instructors say, "yes, this is partially a training issue.  Train to draw right and it's OK.  But the method of safe draw requires training and it is not an intuitive movement."  so they discourage it.  I heard on Instructor claim he'd seen 2 different people ND into their own leg because of improper draw from SERPA.

My "feel" for the whole thing is that it is an actual issue which needs addressed but that it is being overblown with pants-crapping hype.  Gun owners and instructors are people too and just as vulnerable to the all-too-human inclination to latch on to hype and hysteria.

I won't buy or use a SERPA.  It doesn't fit my needs.  I'm too cheap.  I don't like how it operates.   It is not right for me.  But I won't say that it sucks and isn't right for anybody.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Texas-Mark

As the comments say in the link, this is just more beating a dead horse. Most of the issues are due to operator error.  I have several of those holsters and they work just fine when you use them properly. I dislike them for their bulky size, but not for functionality.

1911SHOOTER

Quote from: lklawson on April 07, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on April 06, 2017, 02:27:34 PM
     Hey gang,
This just came up on the Ruger forum.   Just passing it along, for what it is worth.
I will say, I had one, and it ruined the finish on my 1911.
Blackie

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/04/06/serpa-sucks-thats-just-say/
This has been getting a HUGE amount of play in the pro-firearms community lately.  I have heard many and varied professional firearms instructors have been saying exactly this, quite vocally, in the last few months.  It does all revolve around the way the trigger finger can slip straight to the trigger during draw.  Some of the instructors say, "yes, this is partially a training issue.  Train to draw right and it's OK.  But the method of safe draw requires training and it is not an intuitive movement."  so they discourage it.  I heard on Instructor claim he'd seen 2 different people ND into their own leg because of improper draw from SERPA.

My "feel" for the whole thing is that it is an actual issue which needs addressed but that it is being overblown with pants-crapping hype.  Gun owners and instructors are people too and just as vulnerable to the all-too-human inclination to latch on to hype and hysteria.

I won't buy or use a SERPA.  It doesn't fit my needs.  I'm too cheap.  I don't like how it operates.   It is not right for me.  But I won't say that it sucks and isn't right for anybody.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Kirk,
       I also no longer will use a Serpa, for the reason I stated at the start of this thread, it ruined the finish on my1911.  You can either carry in a Serpa, and
quit practicing your presentation of your weapon,  which is a no-no , or go back to leather.  (Or, Nylon)   When I was using mine,  I never had the
finger on the trigger problem.  56 years ago, I learned not to put your finger on the trigger when drawing,   it is a painful reminder to this day.
And while embarrassing to mention,  I do so in hopes it will help another young shooter who thinks he is Matt Dillon, or one of the Earps.
Blackie
 
So many guns, so little time!