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Started by SCurmudgeon, March 18, 2017, 09:42:10 PM

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russc2542

Glad to hear you tried out a variety and more than just the conventional options. I also have a CCP and would agree that it is very comfortable for it's size (I have big mitts). As far as recoil reduction vs the R51, it's tailored to different loads I remember when I first got the R51 I took about half a dozen varieties of ammo to try out and was surprised how much of a difference there was. Because the CCP uses a gas-delay piston it'll be more sensitive to what it eats. Mine doesn't care much for fast powders or hot loadings wheras the R51 was designed for +P and runs better on hotter ammo.

I like my CCP but I'll be honest: they only have about a 50-70% "would suggest it to a friend" rating on the Walther forums and just announced an all-encompassing recall. There are a couple things to check for (gritty trigger, almost-falling out strip of metal from machining, model revisions) and some that can only be found through testing (FTF, FTE, mag dropping). Mine's been  pretty good but I'd suggest buying a used or rental CCP that you have an opportunity to shoot before buying.

I didn't care for the ergos of the shield and haven't tried the glock so I can't speak on them.

1911SHOOTER

Quote from: russc2542 on March 24, 2017, 09:31:28 AM
Glad to hear you tried out a variety and more than just the conventional options. I also have a CCP and would agree that it is very comfortable for it's size (I have big mitts). As far as recoil reduction vs the R51, it's tailored to different loads I remember when I first got the R51 I took about half a dozen varieties of ammo to try out and was surprised how much of a difference there was. Because the CCP uses a gas-delay piston it'll be more sensitive to what it eats. Mine doesn't care much for fast powders or hot loadings wheras the R51 was designed for +P and runs better on hotter ammo.

I like my CCP but I'll be honest: they only have about a 50-70% "would suggest it to a friend" rating on the Walther forums and just announced an all-encompassing recall. There are a couple things to check for (gritty trigger, almost-falling out strip of metal from machining, model revisions) and some that can only be found through testing (FTF, FTE, mag dropping). Mine's been  pretty good but I'd suggest buying a used or rental CCP that you have an opportunity to shoot before buying.

I didn't care for the ergos of the shield and haven't tried the glock so I can't speak on them.


russc2542,
     I have to tell ya, my R51, my R51 shoots everything I put in it.   Even the junk rolling around in the bottom of my range bag. 
I can't think of any ammo I have shot in it with any malfunction, except Tula, and I won't shoot Russian ammo.   I did shoot Winchester USA Forged, and it ran fine.
Aluminium case too,   I will say I have not shot any of the top end JHP stuff as I use Ruger ARX Polycase for carry.
Blackie

Good advice on the used or rental.  Some of us on here had to use up a lot of time and
ammo to get our pistils running well enough to trust.
So many guns, so little time!

russc2542

Quote from: 1911SHOOTER on March 24, 2017, 10:52:31 AM
russc2542,
     I have to tell ya, my R51, my R51 shoots everything I put in it.   Even the junk rolling around in the bottom of my range bag. 
I can't think of any ammo I have shot in it with any malfunction, except Tula, and I won't shoot Russian ammo.   I did shoot Winchester USA Forged, and it ran fine.
Aluminium case too,   I will say I have not shot any of the top end JHP stuff as I use Ruger ARX Polycase for carry.
Blackie

Good advice on the used or rental.  Some of us on here had to use up a lot of time and
ammo to get our pistils running well enough to trust.

mine runs on anything too, it just runs better on the hotter stuff. I reload so I ran a spectrum of stuff plus half a dozen factory loads through mine one range session and I gotta say I'd never realized how different the various manufacturers are. the key take-away is that with the soft loads, I could just about feel each of the different movements inside the gun: initial locking, unlocking/locking block articulation, stripping the next round, (barely) pushing it into the chamber, etc. With the warmer loads it all blended into a smoother single impulse.